RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > THE CHASSIS CLUB FORUMS > Ford Motorhome Chassis Forum
Click Here to Login

Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-05-2015, 06:56 AM   #1
Member
 
Calliedo02's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 63
CHF Process Question

When making this change on the front, should the rig be up on ramps (weight on the wheels) or raised with the front jacks (and safety jack stands). Or does it matter?
__________________

__________________
Chuck in Houston
2015 Allegro 32CA
2014 Honda CR-V
Calliedo02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 04-05-2015, 07:42 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Fredericksburg, TX
Posts: 276
Doesn't matter. The safest method is to do it with the wheels on the ground if you have the clearance under there to work. What does matter with that method is the coach should be level. If not you will probably have to use a jack to raise one end of the bar up to line up the hole for the link bolt. Not that big of a deal. Just make sure that the link bolts are torqued to spec - 65 ft/lbs on mine.
__________________

__________________
Jim
2019 Lance 975
2019 Ford F350, 2017 Harley Tri Glide, 1 wife and 2 cats
jrd48 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2015, 08:40 AM   #3
Senior Member - DIYer
 
Waiter21's Avatar


 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 5,597
Should be able to do it sitting on the ground. Don't tighten up any bolts until bolts are installed on both sides.

If your not level, its possible you may need to use a bottle jack to push the torsion bar or axle a little to help bolts line up
__________________
1999 Fleetwood Southwind 35S (Ford F53 6.8L V10 275hp 4R100 4 spd trans) - Toad 2003 Saturn Vue.
(www.1999Southwind.com)

It won't do MACH 2, but I can get a sandwich and take a pee.
Waiter21 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2015, 09:16 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 5,808
Think about it this way. There is absolutely no tension or pressure on the sway bar unless wind is trying to move the coach. If the coach is not level there is still no tension on the sway bars. Well if it's setting on a 12" slope then the coach is listing to one side and there is some (very little) tension on the sway bar. Lets put it this way. When you take the link bolt(s) out nothing is going to spring up,down, or anywhere and hurt you. It's not like releasing a coil spring.

Access to the links is all that is necessary. Usually that's easy with the coach on the ground. Some guys have reported that they are carrying a few extra pounds these days and can't always get into some areas. Why lift the front of the coach if you don't have to?? Once the links are removed the only thing holding the sway bar are the two clamps ob either side and the rubber bushings. There will be pressure from the bushings and the clamps but the sway bar is not attached to the frame and it can be moved with some fairly easy. I'd slip a pipe over the end of the bar and lever it into position.

At this time (if you are planning on doing this) I'd level the bar ends and determine how much to lengthen the stock links. I'm going to do this in the next few days. I'm thinking that it will be easier on the bushings if the force angle is closer to 90 degrees. Many have done the CHF and didn't lengthen the links. I one of those that just has to have something to do to make it better.

TeJay
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
TeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2015, 01:18 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Americanrascal's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: West Georgia
Posts: 560
I must have been an oddball with mine. I didn't have to apply much pressure to the bar on the front modification to get an alignment and it went pretty smooth.

On the rear, I had to jack the frame up about an inch to get an alignment on the inner hole. I noticed there was more stress on the rear set up.

The rig was slightly , but evenly lower on the passenger side.?????
Americanrascal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2015, 03:40 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 16,964
If one front wheel is up on high spot or in a hole, even though the vehicle is sitting level, there will be tension on the sway bar.
It's job is to counteract that movement.
twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2015, 08:59 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
curtsr's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 308
Quote:
Originally Posted by americanrasc View Post
I must have been an oddball with mine. I didn't have to apply much pressure to the bar on the front modification to get an alignment and it went pretty smooth.

On the rear, I had to jack the frame up about an inch to get an alignment on the inner hole. I noticed there was more stress on the rear set up.

The rig was slightly , but evenly lower on the passenger side.?????
I was an oddball also as both the front and rear sway bars only needed to be raised 1/2 inch to line up with the rear holes. Also used the stock end links and have no interference with the springs.
curtsr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2015, 06:20 AM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 8
Could someone post pic of rear sway bar placement /brackets before &after chd please?
pgomalley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 01:52 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 5,808
I'm away (200 miles) from the MH now but will post pics, if nobody else does, in a few days.

TeJay
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
TeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2015, 01:59 PM   #10
Senior Member - DIYer
 
Waiter21's Avatar


 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 5,597
These are a 2001 chassis. Rear sway bar before and after CHF. Also, notice the new bushings in rear bar (they are blue color).

I think the newer chassis is different. From seeing what people are posting, there appears to be an issue with the hold downs for the bushings.

TeJay has a new chassis, he might be able to chime in on this.

ALSO - IMPORTANT - Be careful with the rear torsion bar, it runs up and across the front of the differential, about 1/2 inch from the ABS sensor. I broke my ABS sensor and had a heck of a time digging it out of the hole.

Don't raise the torsion bar up any higher than you need to put the bolts in. If you remove the torsion bar bushing brackets, be very, very careful how you hold the bar so it doesn't break the sensor.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SwayBarRear_Before.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	197.0 KB
ID:	91733   Click image for larger version

Name:	SwayBarRear_After.jpg
Views:	109
Size:	204.5 KB
ID:	91734  

__________________
1999 Fleetwood Southwind 35S (Ford F53 6.8L V10 275hp 4R100 4 spd trans) - Toad 2003 Saturn Vue.
(www.1999Southwind.com)

It won't do MACH 2, but I can get a sandwich and take a pee.
Waiter21 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2015, 07:36 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 5,808
Notice the relative position of the sway bar before and after. It does not appear to have changed. That's consistent with what everybody else has noticed. When doing the rear CHF there is not appreciable raising of the sway bar position therefore no need to extend the links.

The only difference in the bushing clamps is the older ones are much stouter than the thinner metal straps used in later years. The older ones almost look like a crankshaft main bearing cap. Some have also reported loose bolts and broken straps on the newer ones.

TeJay

TeJay
__________________
TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
TeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2015, 03:43 PM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 54
Can Anyone recommend a shop in Northern Los angles area/plamdale to do the CHF… took the coach to the original dealer today and said they will not change the sway bar points… Didn't offer a reason why. Had never heard of CHF either. Big dealer in Van Nuys
compute42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2015, 04:30 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 16,964
Any light truck repair shop, with enough room, can do this.

Tell them to move your sway bar links, to the other set of holes.

They may not have heard of the CHF but can move some bolts.
__________________

twinboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A/C & Gas Heater Maint Question Bilgerat Fleetwood Owner's Forum 0 03-11-2015 06:46 PM
Headlight question plus bonus dash NAV fuse question jbmoberly76 Newmar Owner's Forum 3 02-07-2015 04:19 AM
Stupid Electrical Question for the Month BPoland Newmar Owner's Forum 18 01-01-2015 07:00 PM
Solar Power - Generator - Inverter Question Rossi6998 Boondocking 7 03-09-2014 12:06 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.