F53 chassis dyno ????

[LVRVLUVR]

Anyone done it??? anyone know what the loss in rear hp would be on a 178'' wheel base.... and how much more loss on a 208???

[Mr_D]

Should be very close to the same. The only real difference is the driveshaft length and the rear axle ratio.

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by Mr_D

Should be very close to the same. The only real difference is the driveshaft length and the rear axle ratio.

the 22.5's will eat up the lower gear..

[LVRVLUVR]

anyway,... heres my winnabago /Itasca 27b tribute pulling a 24' trailer up a 6% grade...this is before I put the banks power kit on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyKms...ature=youtu.be

[LVRVLUVR]

this is my old 2012 30' allegro with out the trailer going up the same hill

this is before the banks was installed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFg56dQWuG4

[joes2901]

2forceful,

Did you say the Itasca 27b with trailer speed was 50 or 60 MPH at the top of the grade? I am interested in your results with the Banks improvements, when will you be posting the information/video.

What MPG are you experiencing? My 2012 BayStar 2901 seems to like 6.5 MPH at 58-59 MPH and weighs 25,100 lbs. with the 2008 Tacoma 4x4 Access Cab I usually tow.

Newmar built me a great short RV and it has taken another $34K to finish it the way I want it. We seem to like tweeking our machines to turn them into something better than OEM.

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by joes2901

2forceful,

Did you say the Itasca 27b with trailer speed was 50 or 60 MPH at the top of the grade? I am interested in your results with the Banks improvements, when will you be posting the information/video.

What MPG are you experiencing? My 2012 BayStar 2901 Attachment 82572seems to like 6.5 MPH at 58-59 MPH and weighs 25,100 lbs. with the 2008 Tacoma 4x4 Access Cab I usually tow.

Newmar built me a great short RV and it has taken another $34K to finish it the way I want it. We seem to like tweeking our machines to turn them into something better than OEM.

thanks for posting
I dropped to 50mph... the grade says 6%/....but that's on the down hill side....I think it's like 7% or more on the off ramp...I'm about 1600 lbs lighter than you...

[LVRVLUVR]

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2006 Thor 4-Winds Motorhome equipped with a 6.8L 30-valve Triton V-10 engine. While the engine is rated by the factory at 362 hp, on the dyno the stock best gain was only 242 hp.
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Stock Motorhome
Banks PowerPack
Improvement Result Horsepower,
best gain 216.3 hp
(4200 rpm) 271.9 hp
(4200 rpm)
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best gain 270.5 lb-ft
(4200 rpm) 340.0 lb-ft
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21.28 sec
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10.36 sec
-1.64 sec
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6% grade
52 mph
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58 mph
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7.73 mpg
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[LVRVLUVR]

so according to banks, the 362 hp is only 242 by the time it hits the rear wheels




Test Vehicle:
2006 Thor 4-Winds Motorhome equipped with a 6.8L 30-valve Triton V-10 engine. While the engine is rated by the factory at 362 hp, on the dyno the stock best gain was only 242 hp.

[demoon]

We had a full Power Pack, Ram Air and Transcommand installed on our 2001 V-10, 30' class c. We never had it on a dyno, but acceleration, hill climbing and overall performance improvement was just not there. Our stock, 06 V-10, 34' class a is a far better performer. We would not even consider spending the money we did for the Banks on the 01 again. I think the Banks is quality equipment and may help in the right application, but I also believe there are far less expensive alternatives, such as a 5 Star tune. (Don't have one, but like what a read about them).
Personal opinion, but close to 5K for the Banks on the 01 just was not worth what it did.

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by demoon

We had a full Power Pack, Ram Air and Transcommand installed on our 2001 V-10, 30' class c. We never had it on a dyno, but acceleration, hill climbing and overall performance improvement was just not there. Our stock, 06 V-10, 34' class a is a far better performer. We would not even consider spending the money we did for the Banks on the 01 again. I think the Banks is quality equipment and may help in the right application, but I also believe there are far less expensive alternatives, such as a 5 Star tune. (Don't have one, but like what a read about them).
Personal opinion, but close to 5K for the Banks on the 01 just was not worth what it did.

5 grand for the banks is pretty steep... your newer coach has 60 more horsepower stock...

[demoon]

5 grand for the banks is pretty steep... your newer coach has 60 more horsepower stock.

Roughly 2500 for the system directly from Banks + very close to another 2500 for the installation by the shop that Banks sent us to in our area.

I know that the 01 had 3 and the 06 has 362, but there is also nearly 6K pounds more weight. Banks claimed about 57 hp increase for the 310. My point is, just that the performance was just not noticeably improved on the 01 after the install. I will concede that the Transcommand did help a bit with the transmission's tendency to shift down at the sight of a hill, but the rest - could not really see a thing. Oh, it sounded nice.

[LVRVLUVR]

Originally Posted by demoon

5 grand for the banks is pretty steep... your newer coach has 60 more horsepower stock.

Roughly 2500 for the system directly from Banks + very close to another 2500 for the installation by the shop that Banks sent us to in our area.

I know that the 01 had 3 and the 06 has 362, but there is also nearly 6K pounds more weight. Banks claimed about 57 hp increase for the 310. My point is, just that the performance was just not noticeably improved on the 01 after the install. I will concede that the Transcommand did help a bit with the transmission's tendency to shift down at the sight of a hill, but the rest - could not really see a thing. Oh, it sounded nice.

that's where I'm at... the cross roads what to do what really works whats smoke and mirrors..

every banks kit I've done,, very noticeable... I drive the same hills constant

this time I wanna be able to say..this is what it really did

banks has the trans command.. guess you could set it where you want on shift points???

I see on here some have the banks and the 5 star??? why????

what does the 5 star do that the banks don't...
and vise versa

[demoon]

The Transcommand came programmed and since it worked well, I did not mess with it.
If someone has the full Banks, I do not understand what a 5 Star would add. As far as I know, it is a tuner.
I think your approach (your video), will be a much more realistic test of what the Banks did/does. Actual dyno testing seems to be a little hard to fit with real life results on the road.
Good luck with whatever you do. I'll be anxious to see what your real-life test shows.