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10-21-2016, 05:48 PM
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Texas Boomers Club Oklahoma Boomers Club Nor'easters Club Spartan Chassis
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F53 wheel balance 19.5 tires.
Any chance that a Ford F53 chassis front tires would be balanced at the factory? No weights visible but wondering if balance beads might be inside. 2016 Bay Star Sport.
A previous MH I owned also had 19.5 tires and balancing made a difference.
Thanks any info
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10-21-2016, 08:57 PM
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Marquette, Michigan "Da UP" & Lehigh Acres Florida
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I somehow don't see the factory spending the extra money for beads or powder, it's too bad I'd have to have that feeling.
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10-21-2016, 10:37 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Location: Dallas TX
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No wheel weights from factory.
I had the fronts balanced on the vehicle when I had it aligned at Bucks in Ft. Worth. I later added Centramatic wheel balancers on Front and Rear Axles. I don't think that any of my wheels had balancing weights. Ride is much smoother now. (except for expansion joints and other rough roads - but that is a different problem.)
Regards, Jerry
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10-22-2016, 06:38 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Lowell, Arkansas
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X2 with JerryP, Tried the beads (sand) and just didn't like the idea of adding something inside the tire. Also the stuff plugged up the valve core the first time i checked the tire pressure and caused a valve leak. That's a potential ruined $400 tire. Yes I know that issue can be remedied but again that's just adding something else to correct a flaw in a MOD.
The CB's work and will work until such time as we change coaches and have the 22.5" wheels/rims. That's not likely to happen. If we change coaches the CB's will come of and go on to the next coach. That's (IMHO) $400 well spent for continuous tire balancing.
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10-22-2016, 07:55 AM
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Dynabeads work extremely well, and Balance the tire dynamically as it wears.
I've used them on my motorhomes, and the Big Dog. They work equally well.
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10-23-2016, 07:26 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Lowell, Arkansas
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The Dynabeads are larger than the sand that was put into my tires. What they used was called "Equal." They were small sand particles. You had to replaced the stems with special ones. Standard stems could or would not close completely allowing air to escape.
If you didn't buy the special valve stems when you wanted to check or fill the tires you had to do two things. First you had to try and make sure your stems were at the top of the tire so the sand would be at the bottom of the tire and not around the stem. Try doing that with your RV.
Secondly you always first put a small puff of air into the stem to blow any residual sand away from the end of the stem to prevent the sand from blocking the valve.
Now that's just WAY, WAY to much to do when checking and filling my tires. I check and fill my tires. What if you had somebody else do it which caused a leak and ruined a tire?? Could it happen?? Absolutely! I had the powder put in and even before I installed the tires on the RV I just checked the pressure and the stem started leaking.
I just felt that the risk was to great to take a chance. The place where I got the Equal didn't have any of the special stems in stock. Special stems or not I still did not want to risk a slight leak. Why add another bump in the RV road if it can be avoided?? Correctly servicing these beasts is complicated enough.
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10-23-2016, 08:31 AM
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Something I think bears restating
Quote:
On Sep 20, 2016, at 09:39, Jerry <jrobertson@centramatic.com> wrote:
GOOD DAY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INQUIRY
ANYTHING INSIDE THE TIRE CANNOT BE USED WITH THE BALANCERS.
THEY OPERATE ON TWO DIFFERENT DIAMETERS, THEY WILL FIGHT EACH OTHER
REGARDS,
JERRY ROBERTSON
DIRECTOR OF TECHNICAL SUPPORT
CENTRAMATIC
5345 SOUTH INTERSTATE 35 WEST
ALVARADO TEXAS 76009
800-523-8473
jrobertson@centramatic.com
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10-23-2016, 04:29 PM
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We bought our camper used. The tires although barely worn were older than i wanted. None had weights on them. I ended up replacing all the tires and the shop did balance the tire with weights. It is night and day difference in the ride. It was only a few dollars more to do (relative) while replacing the tires.
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10-23-2016, 05:50 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Lowell, Arkansas
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Your tires had no weights on them. Back a few years ago we decided to buy a travel trailer (TT). One of the worst mistakes we ever made.
I didn't realize it at the time but eventually did learn that many, many TT's don't have self adjusting brakes, shocks, come stock with bias belted tires instead of radial and most will not balance the tires.
Someone asked me why I didn't know these facts. When was the last time you bought a car or truck and asked the salesperson if they had radial tires, or shocks, or self adjusting brakes, and did they balance the tires. Why would I even think to ask those questions since all cars/tricks sold in the US since the mid 60's had all of the mentioned items as standard equipment.
I have even read some recent posts and there are still some RV and TT owners don't always balance their tires.
I try to learn something new every day. Sometimes what I do learn is not good information.
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10-23-2016, 11:25 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Centramatic Wheel Balancers is the answer. They do a better job and you don't have to have the wheels pulled from the rim. Just pull the wheel off and slip it in behind the wheel and reinstall. Simple slick and goes from MH to MH with the same wheel size, also if you have a tire failure it doesn't blow out with it.
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10-24-2016, 10:59 AM
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Well, I was going to ask you guys if the CBs were worth the money & looks like ya'll have answered that.
When I bought new tires, I had them weight balanced at that time, but they still will have an off & on bounce at times. By how the front end shakes, steering wheel & all you would think the tires are jumping up & down on the road, then the next it is like smooth as glass. Just crazy how its doing & has got to be the fronts, cause rear has around 12,000 lb load on it & that would be a lot to jump up & down.
Neil
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