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Old 04-24-2019, 04:47 PM   #15
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Spoke with Liquid Spring (LS) people last year and they were talking $6,500ish after the purchase at their factory. They (LS) have been around for a long time (ambulances and fire trucks) and are about 2 hours south of the Newmar factory in Indiana. The theory is awesome, their videos well made and I have been a fan https://liquidspring.com/videos/

At that time they were hoping to get into Newmar for their system. Seems like Tiffin said yes first. I believe they had already worked out the warranty issue with Ford back then. I figured I would wait to get the coach (upgraded 26,000 chassis) and see how it drives first after reading all the issues on here about the F-53 chassis and various "fixes".

Recently, earlier this year, I just test drove my exact model (Bay Star 3401) at the closest dealer who had one in NJ. It seemed to drive well as is and that was on the 24,000 chassis. Of course, a 20-25 minute test drive really doesn't tell much
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Old 08-19-2019, 09:20 AM   #16
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Just ran across this thread, sorry I'm late.
On the LS system, what maintenance is required and is it done by operator or have to be done by a service center?
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:31 PM   #17
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Initial 1000 miles Inspect bolts and nuts and assure they are properly torqued, inspect all hydraulic connections for signs of leakage and reservoir fluid level. Some of the bolts are torqued to 800-850 ft-lbs. I didn't have a torque wrench that went that high so I got the dealer to do the job, plus I have a record that it was done. The cost to me $400.00 to get it done, they had to go out while I was waiting to buy a new torque wrench. Routine Maintenance 25,000 miles or 6 months.
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Just a update on the ride improvement, It's hard to put into words just how much better the ride is. Body roll when making a turn is just not there any more. There are three ride and handling settings, comfort, normal, and sport. I can't really tell the difference between comfort and normal, I leave it in normal most of the time. The best improvement in ride is on winding two lane roads or when there is a side wind, Put the ride in sport and it really stays in the road, you can feel the ride adjust whenever needed, trucks and cross winds are not a problem any more, you feel it but it's not what it was before, no more white -knuckle rides. If you are planning to buy a new Open Road take a test ride with the new LiquidSpring suspension.
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Just a update on the ride improvement, It's hard to put into words just how much better the ride is. Body roll when making a turn is just not there any more. There are three ride and handling settings, comfort, normal, and sport. I can't really tell the difference between comfort and normal, I leave it in normal most of the time. The best improvement in ride is on winding two lane roads or when there is a side wind, Put the ride in sport and it really stays in the road, you can feel the ride adjust whenever needed, trucks and cross winds are not a problem any more, you feel it but it's not what it was before, no more white -knuckle rides. If you are planning to buy a new Open Road take a test ride with the new LiquidSpring suspension.
Hello Ragsland - - - I have a 40' Newmar 2017 Canyon Star, 26K chassis. As some have mentioned on this thread, I am happy with the way my rig drives and rides. I did add Sumo Springs all around to help with roll, they did the job. On a well maintained, asphalt road, my motor home is a dream. On rough, un-maintained roads - it is an experience.

I am about to visit the Liquid Springs factory this week for information on a retro-fit. I do not live far.

My question to you is , "How does it handle expansion joints, bridge connections from land to bridge & back, pot holes, rough multi-patched roads, heavily crowned or leaning roads?" Even some new concrete roads are an experience, very uneven.

Here in Indiana, we are known to have the worst roads in America, although after just coming home from the FMCA Convention in Minot, ND we drove on some rough roads all the way there and back.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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My question to you is , "How does it handle expansion joints, bridge connections from land to bridge & back, pot holes, rough multi-patched roads, heavily crowned or leaning roads?" Even some new concrete roads are an experience, very uneven.

Here in Indiana, we are known to have the worst roads in America, although after just coming home from the FMCA Convention in Minot, ND we drove on some rough roads all the way there and back.
Glenn, my first road test of the LiquidSpring system was in Indiana, very near the LiquidSpring factory. My article at the link below is a comparison before/after installation, and you'll see some data about the ride over expansion joints.

https://openroadscapes.com/blog/2017...rt-3-road-test

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I thank Wgoldman can answer your questions better because he drove his before and after LS install. My old coach was 22,000 lbs and this one 26,000 with a longer wheel base. The cross wind driving is much improved over my old class A same as meeting a large truck on a two lane road, it correct itself before you can react.
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Thanks Bill and Ragsland.......

Great articles Bill.

I spoke with Dean, the company President this past week when I was returning from North Dakota and will call Customer Service this week, Chris our Chad - I forget, to make an appointment this week. Wayne is still on the road for another month.

I'll keep y'all posted.

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