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09-17-2018, 05:50 AM
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Ford V-10 Performance Upgrade?
I don't know what has gotten into me lately but I've wanted more power whether in my Ford F-150, which runs pretty good, but I know they have put superchargers on them, OH BOY!!. So, I did a search for supercharging the V-10 and ran across this website which I will show you.
My question is, has anyone done any performance enhancements on their V-10, what you did, and the outcome?
Thank you much.
https://www.stage3motorsports.com/Cl...-Upgrades.html
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09-17-2018, 07:27 AM
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I bet that supercharger would look real nice sitting beside you . Might be a little noisy though. The other bolt ons like headers , fresh air intake , and PCM tuning will make quite a difference especially when all 3 are done. My old coach came with the Banks headers and fresh air intake. I have done some PCM tuning and noticed more power and an increase in fuel mileage. You just have to be careful to not over do it . That's when things start to break. Like we say in racing , tune it till it blows up , then back it off a notch.
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09-17-2018, 09:46 AM
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Thanks Soppy. If you race then you know pretty much about this.
Yeah, I would like a little more power mostly for the long climbs and possibly better fuel mileage on the flats.
So let me ask you a question on superchargers. If I was to install one, from what I read, it could give me about 50% more horsepower and torque. Now if I DON"T punch it, YEAH RIGHT, LOL, from a standing start, things shouldn,t break. And if I don't punch it going down the road, seems to me it will breathe a lot better and fuel mileage might be better, yes or no?
And how about at higher elevations where the air is thin, a better performance there with more air being forced in??
It's a lot of money for a supercharger but if I can get a little more performance from the Banks system or whatever is available. I may give those a try.
Thanks Soppy and all who respond to this conversation.
Have a Great Day.
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09-17-2018, 10:10 PM
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Coils?
Has anyone put hotter coils on their V10? I put some Accel coils on my 2001 5.4 triton and seemed to give better mpg but that was a few years ago. Anyone else have thoughts, or is it a waste of money for reward?
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09-17-2018, 11:05 PM
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edge...do you have dual exhausts?
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09-18-2018, 02:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch Hoagland
edge...do you have dual exhausts?
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Nope, it's single. What ya thinkin?
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09-18-2018, 06:58 AM
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Installing a supercharger and the proper tuning is the easiest way to really increase your performance . But that increase will not be at 2000 RPM . The real gain is above 5000 RPM . Your fuel economy will drop with a supercharger. The engine requires an air fuel ratio around 15:1 to properly operate. Since a supercharger is producing boost even at idle , you will have more air in the cylinder which will require more fuel. It also takes quite a bit of power to turn that supercharger so you burn more fuel. They work great on a light street vehicle where the high power requirement is only used for a few seconds at a time. I don't know of anyone who has put a supercharger on a truck and hauled or pulled anything with it.
About all you can do is make the engine breathe easier and do a bit of PCM /ECM tuning. That will give you an increase in performance as well as fuel economy . Just remember you are driving a 20,000 lb RV not a 1,200 lb race car.
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09-18-2018, 12:02 PM
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" Just remember you are driving a 20,000 lb RV not a 1,200 lb race car "
Yes Dad, LOL. Thanks Soppy. You explained it very well to me, much appreciated. I will in time look at the other options mentioned.
My coach does run very well and like I've said in the past, I am actually very impressed with the way it runs, except, when it wants to downshift two gears instead of one at a time to climb while in cruise control. The first time it did that it got my attention real quick. I know about 5 Star and what it does in changing shift points, BUT, does it make any changes to actual engine performance??, I haven't read that it does. Maybe I can get pointed in a specific direction to achieve what I want, a little more power and fuel mileage. I've been thinking about slowing to 55 instead of 62 and see if that's worth it.
I see a K&N air filter kit. Any thoughts on that??
Ok, thanks gang. I appreciate your input. I'm all eyes.
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09-18-2018, 03:06 PM
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edge68474, don't let any one discourage you from you quest of performance. I also wanted more HP and torque on my 95 Bounder 460. So out came the 460 and a 528 stroker engine went back in. I grin all the way to the top of the hill. Go for it.
Richard
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09-18-2018, 04:27 PM
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Ford V-10 Performance Upgrade?
Here is a thought on slowing to 55 instead of 62: at 62 mph we can run around 200 miles and burn almost 40 gallons of fuel. At 55 mph we can run almost 400 miles on about 40 gallons of fuel. There are other benefits to slowing to 55 such as far fewer downshifts, less risks of a wreck and a more relaxed drive. Yes, we can run 70 all day long and make a one day drive instead of 2. But, that kinda defeats the purpose of driving a motor home.
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09-18-2018, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edge68474
" Just remember you are driving a 20,000 lb RV not a 1,200 lb race car "
Yes Dad, LOL. Thanks Soppy. You explained it very well to me, much appreciated. I will in time look at the other options mentioned.
My coach does run very well and like I've said in the past, I am actually very impressed with the way it runs, except, when it wants to downshift two gears instead of one at a time to climb while in cruise control. The first time it did that it got my attention real quick. I know about 5 Star and what it does in changing shift points, BUT, does it make any changes to actual engine performance??, I haven't read that it does. Maybe I can get pointed in a specific direction to achieve what I want, a little more power and fuel mileage. I've been thinking about slowing to 55 instead of 62 and see if that's worth it.
I see a K&N air filter kit. Any thoughts on that??
Ok, thanks gang. I appreciate your input. I'm all eyes.
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The 5 star tune will increase hp 10 to 15% on a stock engine as well as change the shift points of the transmission. It is a PCM tune. If you are planning to add headers and air intake , do that before getting the 5 star tune. If you are planning a cam change that has to be done first as well. You have to tell the tuning company about any add ons so the tune can be correctly programmed for your vehicle.
I have just done some timing adjustments on mine and the performance is much better and it does not downshift at every little hill. And yes , my son says I'm going to blow it up .
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09-18-2018, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggcrisp
Here is a thought on slowing to 55 instead of 62: at 62 mph we can run around 200 miles and burn almost 40 gallons of fuel. At 55 mph we can run almost 400 miles on about 40 gallons of fuel. There are other benefits to slowing to 55 such as far fewer downshifts, less risks of a wreck and a more relaxed drive. Yes, we can run 70 all day long and make a one day drive instead of 2. But, that kinda defeats the purpose of driving a motor home.
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That's a very considerable amount, about double your mileage. I think I will try that, if I can stay there, 55, lol. Thank you biggcrisp, and everyone else as well.
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09-18-2018, 09:41 PM
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I always thought a motorhome would be a great candidate for a twin turbo set up under the chassis similar to the STS turbo system that can go on a Corvette. On the Vette, the turbos are mounted behind the rear wheels and the return tubing acts like an intercooler.
With all that room underneath, the turbos could be mounted after a set of long tube headers and there is plenty of room for intercoolers under there too.
Also, my gas mileage doesn't double if I slow from 62 to 55 mph. It might go up 10% or so.
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09-18-2018, 10:13 PM
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Quote:
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Nope, it's single. What ya thinkin?
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Had a 1979 GMC 1/2 ton with the 350 engine.
Put dual exhausts on it and got a noticeable increase in power.
Two years later I had to have it put back to original single exhaust due to California smog requirements. Really noticed the loss of power.
The Workhorse W22 comes with the GM 8.1 and dual exhausts standard. I've got pretty good power for the size of my rig.
So I'm wondering if you went to dual exhausts if you would gain some power.
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