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08-08-2012, 09:03 PM
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transmission temperature gauge
I am interested in installing a trans temp gauge in my 1997 Damon Ultrastar with the Ford 460 and the E4OD transmission. Where would I install the sensor for this installation? Any recommendations?
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08-08-2012, 09:13 PM
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The sensor should be installed in outlet from transmission to cooler. Could be a place for sensor to be installed, or put a 'T' fitting in the outlet.
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08-08-2012, 09:25 PM
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When I had one installed on my 97 460 with E4OD the shop sent the pan out to a good welding shop and they put it in the pan. Worked like a champ.
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08-08-2012, 10:18 PM
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National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Accutemp Transmission Temperature Adapter for 1/2" Lines
Most installs require mounting the sensor in the trans fluid pan or cutting a transmission line.
I used this device for an easy install. The manufacturer claims the difference in temperature from accurate is five degrees. I can't substantiate that but I can say with this device and an autometer guage the reaction time is very quick to temperature changes. After a few miles in different driving conditions you can sense the relative temperature extremes and it is easy to tell whther of not your transmission is showing anything irregular.
Some folks I'm sure consider this rinky dink but I have found it reliable I think accurate (relatively speaking) and easy to install w/o cutting or drilling or removing the trans pan.
Works for me.
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08-08-2012, 10:19 PM
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I forgot to mention they are made in differing diameters to accomodate different makes.
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08-09-2012, 05:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njs42
Accutemp Transmission Temperature Adapter for 1/2" Lines
Most installs require mounting the sensor in the trans fluid pan or cutting a transmission line.
I used this device for an easy install. The manufacturer claims the difference in temperature from accurate is five degrees. I can't substantiate that but I can say with this device and an autometer guage the reaction time is very quick to temperature changes. After a few miles in different driving conditions you can sense the relative temperature extremes and it is easy to tell whther of not your transmission is showing anything irregular.
Some folks I'm sure consider this rinky dink but I have found it reliable I think accurate (relatively speaking) and easy to install w/o cutting or drilling or removing the trans pan.
Works for me.
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I like that idea, it looks simple enough to duplicate on my own. Is it aluminum ?
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08-09-2012, 08:18 AM
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how about an OBDII bluetooth transmitter and an android phone or tablet running the Torque Pro app? that would let you see lots of different "gauges" and also see and clear any check engine codes.
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08-09-2012, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W4MBG
how about an OBDII bluetooth transmitter and an android phone or tablet running the Torque Pro app? that would let you see lots of different "gauges" and also see and clear any check engine codes.
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The above will not work with the OBD-I System that jluke posted about.
By the way here is the gauge I screwed into my test port:
Amazon.com: Auto Meter 3357 Sport-Comp 2-1/16" Short Sweep Electric Transmission Temperature Gauge: Automotive
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08-09-2012, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W4MBG
how about an OBDII bluetooth transmitter and an android phone or tablet running the Torque Pro app? that would let you see lots of different "gauges" and also see and clear any check engine codes.
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In 1995, all passenger cars were required to move to OBD-II. However, trucks over 9,000 gross weight were not included in the requirement. As such, at least the 1997 Ford 460 F53 remained an OBD-I.
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08-09-2012, 03:54 PM
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Thanks to everyone for their help, looks like a fairly easy install. Will go check on my rv in day or so to see if I can find a test port, if not I will plumb it in the trans cooler line. Thanks again, great site!!
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08-09-2012, 05:20 PM
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The test port is on the drivers side of the E4OD Transmission.
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1995 COACHMEN Santara 350FL on a 1994 Ford F53
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08-09-2012, 05:47 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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wow, i knew the heavier trucks were delayed by a few years, but i didnt realize it was that long. my bad!
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08-09-2012, 06:33 PM
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National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackf3504dr
I like that idea, it looks simple enough to duplicate on my own. Is it aluminum ?
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Yes the device is aluminum. If you are a basic machinist you can make this easy I'm sure. The sending unit is stepped as I recall every thing else is just a hole (or half a hole) easy enough. I'm not metalugist but I think the key is that this is a highly conductive aluminum ( aircraft? if that means anything). I installed mine at the outlet for the out tubing of the transmission as close as I could get to the pan.
At any rate it transfers heat rapidly and the change is recorded on my digital guage in real time. If I approach a hill or the ambient tenperature changes it is recorded almost instantly on my guage. As to how far from actual temperature it measures I haven't a clue (the claim is five degrees) but like I say a few driving experiences and you get the relative values in your head and can tell if your transmission heats up abnormally.
It seems to me some other comments have suggested there is a port already in your transmission for a sending guage. That may be easy as well and would measure fluid temperature. To my knowledge my Allison Tans. has no such port. I could be wrong but to late now I am happy with what I have.
In the meantime I have the codes to load trans temp in my Scanguage II; so if I want I can just remove the device from my tubing and be done with it.
That is if I can get my fingers to type fast enough to load the codes. So far no luck.
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