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Old 03-16-2019, 09:50 PM   #1
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Little looseness in the steering

Had the coach in for coolant and tranny service so while in there asked him to look at front end and steering...
Mentioned the sheppard steering box threads here and he said it was the drag ling rod ends were going bad...



not going to fall off any time soon, but can be addressed after my summer trip...


He said the part from Monaco/REV was a "stupid price" and recomends he have his suspension guy duplicate the part.... ?


I mean. the coach has been doing this since we got it in 2015 and i just thought it was the tag axle lightening the front end to make it float a bit.... never felt it was dangerous....


Anyone experienced anything like this?
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Drag link ends should be available from a truck shop parts department. Or Napa store. Probably a better price too.
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Monaco drag links are special for each chassis and usually only have one replaceable rod end while the other is swaged to the drag link. That's why they are expensive to replace.
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recomends he have his suspension guy duplicate the part.... ?
I mean. the coach has been doing this since we got it in 2015 and i just thought it was the tag axle lightening the front end to make it float a bit.
So which steering box do you have?
Yes, having one made will be cheaper assuming both ends are bad.
A tag does not lift the front, it adds weight to the front.
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So which steering box do you have?
Yes, having one made will be cheaper assuming both ends are bad.
A tag does not lift the front, it adds weight to the front.

well, when it's pogo-ing it gets heavy then light, heavy then light
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A RR10S chassis should not be “pogo-ing” down the road. What are your axle weights and how much air in the airbags for the tag axle? Might as well add what tire pressures too. Do you know which steering box?
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A RR10S chassis should not be “pogo-ing” down the road. What are your axle weights and how much air in the airbags for the tag axle? Might as well add what tire pressures too. Do you know which steering box?
ok, the front end goes up and down... not drastically, but it does... and not really my concern... ride is fine...

But, last time I weighed it is in pic below...
and tag axle has not changed that I know of from 35'ish.... tried to play with psi a bit, but transferred too much weight onto front for the 13k axle so had to back it back down...

Originally had sheppard steering box based on datatcard, but we are the 3rd owners and I've not crawled under to see if it's been changed...

Tire psi around 100 for front and 90 for rest...
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Are you stating that your tag axle tires are at 35psi??? The tag axel tires should be the same as the drive axel tires psi.
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Oh my God, I hope my tires are not



the tag axle gauge for the down pressure on the tag axle as asked for in the previous post and shown in the pic
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ok, the front end goes up and down... not drastically, but it does... and not really my concern... ride is fine...

But, last time I weighed it is in pic below...
and tag axle has not changed that I know of from 35'ish.... tried to play with psi a bit, but transferred too much weight onto front for the 13k axle so had to back it back down...

Originally had sheppard steering box based on datatcard, but we are the 3rd owners and I've not crawled under to see if it's been changed...

Tire psi around 100 for front and 90 for rest...
Any way you can move some stuff towards the back? Being that you are so close to the max for your front axel, and light on the tag, it may smarten up with more weight on the tag.
How old are your shocks? They could be the problem with the porpoising.
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That's part of the problem - moving stuff toward the back, that is....


since a tag axle, no real bay/compartments behind the drive axle and what's there is filled with batteries and air filteres, etc...

and our floor plan has bath at the rear so we do load as much as possible in the closet, but will try to see if the DW has put more up front while I wasn't looking
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That's part of the problem - moving stuff toward the back, that is....


since a tag axle, no real bay/compartments behind the drive axle and what's there is filled with batteries and air filteres, etc...

and our floor plan has bath at the rear so we do load as much as possible in the closet, but will try to see if the DW has put more up front while I wasn't looking
It is surprising how much all those little things add up to! I think we have enough table settings in our rig to run a restaurant!
My wife likes to cook and feed people.
I have a buddy that has an air bagged tag, and he says it makes a huge difference in driving ease with more air in the tag bags.
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But, last time I weighed it is in pic below...
and tag axle has not changed that I know of from 35'ish.... tried to play with psi a bit, but transferred too much weight onto front for the 13k axle so had to back it down.
Tire psi around 100 for front and 90 for rest...
Not much you can do other than heavier stuff to the rear. I would have thought by 2011 Monaco would have moved the fuel tank back from the front bay, like they did on the bigger rigs.
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The more I think about it, I may look at the shocks as someone suggested...
they could explain the semi pogo I get which COULD lead to a bit of floowing the road surface left and right...

and they may be oem with 40k+ miles on them



(that is along with the drag link end)


Leaving Wed morning for Cajun Palms so will pay more attention to the symptoms...


Thanks for all the responses...
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