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Old 11-20-2015, 03:11 PM   #1
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Motorcycle hauling

I asked on the Monaco group maybe someone here can help. Have 2007 H.R.Vacationer want to haul on back a 550# motorcycle including ramp, the hitch looks beefy but H.R. says to limit weight to 400# Why so little rear when most r.vs allow 500# does anyone know why and also what problems do you think I will run into, do any of you haul a motorcycle on back. By the way I have rear radiator but bike sets a good two ft. from r.v. also I still am under scale weight.

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Old 11-21-2015, 03:16 PM   #2
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I wouldn't do it. You're gonna exceed the limit by over 37% -- I'm sure you're beyond any safety margin. And, as your attorney, you got no defensible position except ignorance, which is no defensible position. That bike falls off, you're toast, your bike insurance will not pay, because you accepted the risk of 550 pounds when 400 was the limit. Someone behind you runs over that bike, sell the outhouse 'cause you gonna loose your A$$!! That someone is also on a bike.....NO. You get caught in a lie to an insurance company, felony, and your other insurance companies (health, home, business, auto) may legally elect to drop your lying butt! Go buy a little trailer from Harbor Frieght, and pull it behind your toad. I haul my BMW and the wifey's Harley in a Haulmark Edge Low Hauler enclosed trailer.

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Old 11-22-2015, 10:50 AM   #3
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I assume you have a Vacationer Diesel because you stated you had a rear radiator. All of the Monaco/HR Roadmaster chassis' I have seen, the trailer hitch is also the rear engine mount so you do not want to overload it. You stated that the "... bike sets a good two ft. from r.v. " which would greatly increase the load on the hitch. I am surprised they said you could put 400# two feet behind the hitch, or didn't you tell them that?
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Old 11-22-2015, 03:41 PM   #4
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I'm not sure how many ways you can ask the same thing in different threads and get something other than similar answers from us. if you talk to the Monaco engineers, they will have the definitive answer. Other than that, we're all going to say something like: "it's not spec'd to go over 400# so you're on your own but I wouldn't do it if it was me", because we weren't the designers.

As a retired design-engineer, I can tell you that ANY product has been designed to do something and then tested to be sure it did what it was supposed-to. If you want to exceed those design specs, then you've just become your own test-engineer.

Will that much weight that far back work? Maybe, maybe-not. I know WE can't tell you what you want to hear. Only way is to either go out and do it yourself, or talk to Monaco and get a waiver.

And is there going to be enough airflow with the bike back there? Again, maybe or maybe-not. We don't know, and in reality have no way of knowing. We're not test-engineers.

In either case, is it worth it to rip off the back of your coach-frame or overheat that expensive engine, if it doesn't work?

Asking the same thing over and over and hoping we say "yes" won't make it right.

However, if you do try it, please post what you find so the next person won't have to ask again.

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Old 11-22-2015, 03:55 PM   #5
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I carried a 350 lb. combined bike and carrier weight over 10K miles with no problems, but the hitch is rated at 10K lbs.

If you were to add 2 extra supports (one on each end of the carrier) you should be safe. Here is a detail of a receiver I had built for my camper. Something like this should work for you.

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Old 11-23-2015, 10:14 AM   #6
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The Vacationer hitch is rated at 4000# with a 400# tongue weight. As stated above there are probably many factors that control these weights. That 400# weight is set with the hitch ball being 8" from the hitch pin. If you mount your 500# cycle at that spec. you are still 100# over the rated amount. Move it 24" from the pin and that 500# is now considerably more than the 400# rated weight. Also, in your owners manual, cooling system section page 172, there is a picture of a motorcycle mounted on the rear of your coach with a big circle with a line drawn through it. I take this to mean, no MC carriers on the rear.
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Old 11-23-2015, 04:36 PM   #8
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ask and receive

Rustytools the only way I know how to solve a problem is ask questions of those who do know, it took me a lot of asking and I finally have my answer The motor mount is welded to the hitch hense the low hitch weight. I did not try to upset anyone

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We have a Monaco Windsor and carry a Goldwing Interstate with a
hydralift. Total weight of bike and lift is approx. 1400 lbs.


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I have the original owners manual for my 2003 Endeavor and it give a clear warning to not carry a motorcycle on a hitch carriage. The reasoning used is the restriction to air flow from the radiator grill it will cause and can create an overheating issue. thx
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I bring a 450 # scooter on mine and the rack weights around 300, including the receivers. I had one receiver welded on each side of the hitch structure and built a platform with two tubings and a ramp. It is solid and I have no problem so far.

I saw many people carrying Motorcycle without any issues, even some big 1000 lbs one. If it is too heavy, some installer will bolt on C frame at the rear junction to reinforce the structure. For the welding of the receiver, we welded it on the hitch structure itself because I don't think you are allowed to weld anything on the frame itself. But the whole thing is bolted to the frame.

The hitch of my MH is also the bottom support for the engine, so I would only support a MC rack on side receivers.

There is no restriction for the cooler, my temp does not change at all either I have the scooter on or off, climbing big hills or with strong head wind.
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Before you go to far planning on how to carry your MC, 1) do you have a TAG axle?. If yes they you'll be good on axle weight. 2) if you don't have a TAG axle, have you got your coach's axle weights yet? If no GET THE REAR AXLE WEIGHT first, to see if you even have the capacity to add the weight of the MC, rack, etc, PLUS the leverage weight that will be applied to the rear axle.
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You will be fine. Weight is a recommended weight and is always low. My hitch is a 500lb and my trailer tongue weight is 750lb. I have towed everywhere. Click image for larger version

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