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05-27-2015, 06:48 AM
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Doesn't sound like fun
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Originally Posted by Cliffy
...Who knows what an "outboard aileron lockout is? :-) I do :-) :-)
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05-27-2015, 06:53 AM
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I believe it is a speed related thing. The outboard ailerons are locked above a certain speed to avoid stressing the wing and only the inboard ailerons move to control bank (above whatever that certain speed is)?? Could be wrong - never flew a jet.
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05-27-2015, 12:45 PM
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We were lucky enough to have two other 727's that were grounded by an Aircraft Service & Inspection company located on the field here, and we were allowed to take whatever we needed after the owners basically stripped what they wanted (engines, flight electronics, ect.) We do get a lot of help from FedEx from planes that they retire. We have three good engines coming this summer. Our project Engineer is a Hoarder and really good locating and getting parts donated to us. Couldn't do it without him.
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05-27-2015, 10:22 PM
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Correct on locking out the outboard aileron It is done when the flaps go to full UP. No flap condition. Speed varies with weight but around 200 kts.
Currently own and maintain a 50 year old Mooney M20C
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05-27-2015, 10:30 PM
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Been helping out on this one. I might even live long enough to see it fly!!
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05-28-2015, 10:55 PM
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Looks like quite a project. What will it be when it's completed.
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05-30-2015, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpony56hd
Looks like quite a project. What will it be when it's completed.
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It's the B-17 G that used to be a gas station canopy in Milwaukee, Oregon since 1947. It has less than 40 hours of flying time, it was bought surplus after the war and spent most of its life as a pigeon condo and roadside attraction.
http://www.b17alliancegroup.com/
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05-31-2015, 11:42 AM
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Birds are the Worst!! The aileron and hinge casting replacement was because of birds nesting in the wings. We lent the engines off our 727-100 s/n: 0001 to fly a 727-200 down to the Museum in Seattle. when it got there they were suppose to put covers over the inlets and outlets on the engines to keep the birds out, BUT they didn't and the engines were ruined. Luckily Fed Ex stepped up and offered to donate a set of engines from the next 727 that will be retired this summer.
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06-08-2015, 02:16 PM
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JPONY56HD, Intresting thread here. I served in the U.S. Navy thirty years, 1957 - 1987 and then put almost 20 more with federal civil service working with the navy mostly in Japan and with aviation. I was an airframes guy on active duty, hydraulics, flight controls and so forth. Aircraft I worked on include AD-6/7 Skyraider, also flew on AD-5's. Worked on A3's, FJ-4's, F-4 Phantoms, FAU's, F3D's, SNB's, A6 intruders and the EA-6B Prowler. In civil service I did planning and exstimate work for aircraft repairs. My life has been involved with some form of aircraft work/ restoration if you will. Attached is one of two Cessna's Ive owned over the years. This 140 a 1947 model I kept nearly twenty years while on active duty. Took the wings off it and stored it when over seas. I also operated a "rag wing" Cessna 170 as my 2nd aircraft. Got my ticket back in 1970. When I bought the 140 I used it to take aerial photos to supportt my flying. I had a number of cameras but my favorite was a used ex military Fairchild K-20.
A 4X5 unit. Excellent for low altitude oblique photo's.
I spent nearlyb 24 years in Japan, navy and civil service. primarily at NAF Atsugiwhich is southwest of Tokyo about 25 miles. In the 1980's while there I was involved as the crew leader in the restoration of a SNJ-6 which had been returned to U.S, control. Some thirty years earlier it was one of the first aircraft to be turned over to Japan as a trainer for their then new Japanese Maritime Self-defense Force (JMSDF) In the course of restoring the plane I met several retired Japanese pilots. One of them was world famous Saburo Sakai, the ace that had some 60 confirmed kills back in the Pacific war. Perhaps you read of him and his exploits in the book SAMURAI written with American author Martin Caiden. Another pilot I met was Mr Nobuo Fujita. Mr Fujita had flown in the "new" Japanese navy as a flight instructor in the SNJ's so he was quite interested in seeing the old plane. But his claim to fame was from a bombing mission he had performed with a sea plane from a submarine off the coast of Oregon back in 1942. Attempting to set the woods on fire he had dropped some fire bombs a few miles outside of a little town called Brookings, Oregon. That made him the only Japanese pilot to actively bomb the continental U.S. during the war. Its a long story but after the war, Mr Fujita went back to Brookings, and apologized for the bombing. He hosted students from the local highschool to come to Japan and did his best to promote peace between our two country's. When he passed away his daughter brught some of his ash's to scatter in the area. A symbol that he would remain to "protect" the area. If you should journey to Brookings to day you'll find a small museum deicated to Mr Fujita and holding among other treasures his family's 400 year old samurai sword wich he presented to the town earlier. I enjoyed my time spent with him in japan and recall him with fondness. In the course of meeting these two gentlemen, I also met Mr Nobuo Harada, who has an interesting story. Mr Harada a wealthy businessman with an interest in airplanes has restored some six Japanese zero airframes which he recovered in the caroline islands in the central south Pacific. I met him when he was beginning work on the first airframe. I help assemble the canopy and the landing gear for the plane. I also worked on the aircrafts sekai 21 radial engine. As side note I should tell you this engine was recovered from a bog where it had sat for years since the end of the war. It has taken Mr Harada some 25 years to restore this original engine to operating condition. But its all there, every piece of it! Currently his latest project is the complete flying restoration of a Mitsubishi GM4 "Betty" Bomber. This was the type airplane in which ADM Isoroku Yamamoto was killed when the US jumped his flight at long range with P-38 lightning fighter's. In my 70's now. My Japanese wife and i still get out to Japan. Sometimes on space "A" flights, sometimes commercial. Our daughter lives/ works in Tokyo. And when we do I always try to see what my friend Mr Harada is up to. Over the years he has gifted me with such things as a complete set of industrial prints for the Zero fighter, and the manual for the Sekai engine. Living on Whidbey Island here in Washington state, I follow some restoration projects such as evergrenn aviations project to restore a recovered zero fighter. And believe it or not some years earlier I commuted over to Paine field and donated a few hours to the Boeing 247 project. Gotta say though as much fun as that brief bit of work was it never "inspired" me as much as my time spent on the A6M zero fighter. Anyway thought to add a bit to this thread. Wish it was easier to post photos here. I got a ton of 'em. But enjoying this thread anyway.
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06-08-2015, 08:53 PM
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mr mike,
Very interesting story, I enjoyed it very much thank you for sharing.
My dad was a B17 pilot and when asked about the aircraft, all he would say is that it never let him down.
I would love to get into a restoration project but the bad part is that, being a pilot myself, I would want to be at the controls of what I restored, especially if it was a 17.
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06-09-2015, 10:24 AM
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Here is a copy of the new article detailing some of Mr Fujita's exploits.
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06-09-2015, 10:37 AM
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A photo of Mr Fujita, and me taken while paying a visit to the restored SNJ-6
at NAF Atsugi. About may, 1985
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06-09-2015, 11:27 AM
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A photo of my crew with their finished project in 1985. The aircraft remains on static display at the main gate Atsugi, Japan.
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06-09-2015, 12:05 PM
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Thanks Mike, keep the pics coming. We have a Restored SNJ-6 in our hanger here at Paine field along with one of only two Super Corsair with the 36 cylinder engine in it. The 247D is scheduled to fly down to the Museum as soon as the new building is done. My wife an I spent the summer in Gold Beach a couple years ago and spent some time in Brookings, we'll have to look up the Museum on our next trip. Did you happen to see the segment last wed/thurs on Ch 5 about Joe Jackson's 100th birthday here at the Restoration Center. He comes in four days a week and does machine work. While working with him on some engine cowlings for our B-29, he told me stories about working on them in the Pacific in WWII. Lunch time with a dozen of these old farts is a lot of fun! Don, we have a flying B-17 but unfortunately as with so many restored historical aircraft, Insurance to fly them is just too costly and their irreplaceable status makes it just too risky to fly. Just look what happened to the B-17 "Aluminum Overcast".
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