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01-18-2015, 06:18 AM
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Canoe or Kayak?
Would like to know what suggestions you all have? We want to get on lakes and bayous, Do we want a Kayak or Canoe? Do we want one or one for each of us?
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01-18-2015, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by homeless
Would like to know what suggestions you all have? We want to get on lakes and bayous, Do we want a Kayak or Canoe? Do we want one or one for each of us?
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We use Kayaks for both of us. Some use tandems, but a lot is said for independence! Here in SW Florida there are places where you can rent both Kayak's and Canoes. Give them a try first. Before you buy, have a plan on how you will transport them. Picking the right seat will be a big choice in finding the right Kayak.
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01-18-2015, 07:33 AM
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By trial and error, we experimented with them all. Our preference is the single-person kayak. We found the canoe to be too tipsy and the tandem kayaks to be too long to navigate some of the nooks and crannies we like to kayak through.
Best way to know for sure is to rent a few types. I think you will figure out what works for you pretty quickly. When it comes to buying, Craigs List will be your best friend. At the end of each season there will be a lot of good-condition-but-slightly-used kayaks (and gear) on the market at half the "new" price.
Best choice for beginners will be a shorter kayak (in the 9-10 foot range) with a wider beam. If you pick a model with a keel it will be easier to steer straight. If you pick a model without a keel it will be eaiser to make lots of quick turns. If you pick a model with a rudder, you can do both.
Your physical size/weight will be a factor, too, if/when you decide you want to go "into the deep end" of kayaking.
Let me know when you are ready to talk about paddles!
\ken
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01-18-2015, 07:39 AM
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PS. We like the sit-inside type, too. It gives your knees side-walls to wedge against which makes the kayak more stable and easier to turn. Also, many of the sit-inside kayaks will have small water-tight cargo holds where you can keep bottled water, a camera, Clif bars, SPF50, etc.
If you ever want to kayak along the ocean shore, I would recommend the sit on top kayak type, however (lots of waves).
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01-18-2015, 07:56 AM
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Inflatable Kayaks | Inflatable SUPs | Kayak Accessories | Advanced Elements
This floats our boat...comfortable, well made, 5 years use, lots of salt water, and still looks good. Actually fits in the bag so it does store easily in the space listed.
Just another option...
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01-19-2015, 07:17 PM
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You need better knees than I have to get in and out of kayaks. I prefer canoes - easier to get in and out of, lighter weight for an equivalent boat because they don't have a deck. While I prefer a solo canoe, we also have a tandem. My husband and I have been paddling together for >30 years and we get along fine. The tandem canoe works only if you can communicate
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02-21-2015, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by UTTransplant
You need better knees than I have to get in and out of kayaks. I prefer canoes - easier to get in and out of, lighter weight for an equivalent boat because they don't have a deck. While I prefer a solo canoe, we also have a tandem. My husband and I have been paddling together for >30 years and we get along fine. The tandem canoe works only if you can communicate
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Have you seen these? Water bikes you pedal and sit like a recumbent excersise bike. Just walk on and go, no bending and trying to get in and out. Looks like fun.
www.waterbikesofhouston.webs.com
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02-22-2015, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dkrobath
Have you seen these? Water bikes you pedal and sit like a recumbent excersise bike. Just walk on and go, no bending and trying to get in and out. Looks like fun.
www.waterbikesofhouston.webs.com
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I think it is just a variation of a peddle boat like the ones available for rent in lots of parks. That large flat base would make it dreadfully inefficient and require a significant amount of effort. Looks like they would be heavy to pick up and move. Cute though, and it would work ok on flat water without current or much waves.
I paddle to get into nature, not just for exercise. That generally takes trips of 5-10 miles so efficiency is important to me. Being able to handle rivers and reasonable waves on bigger lakes is also important because just paddling around a pond doesn't hold much attraction for me. I also want something I can pick up and put on top of my car easily enough to not dread it.
We are actually planning a 7 day river trip in April on the Green River in Utah. Wilderness canoe camping at its best!
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02-22-2015, 08:44 AM
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Both have their advantages, but the choice really comes down to how you want to use it Do you know what type of paddling you want to do?
It is a lot easier to learn to paddle a kayak. Many people just get in and paddle away. Learning to paddle a canoe efficiently, takes a much longer time and (usually) some lessons.
If you think that you might be inclined to do some camping out of your watercraft, go with a canoe. It will hold a lot more cargo than a kayak.
If you expect to paddle some of the narrow little waterways that are often found in the Everglades, Okefenokee, etc. A canoe is a better choice. With a kayak, while one blade of your paddle is in the water, the other en is getting tangled up in the vegetation.
For short paddle (up to a few hours), I find the kayak seat with a back rest to be more comfortable. Fore longer paddles, I find that being able to change positions in the canoe, gets me less stiff. You can even change to a kneeling position for a while, and backrests cal always be added.
Canoes are generally much lighter and easier to carry. I have an 18', kevlar canoe that is just under 45 lbs. See the photos.
Once you decide if you want a canoe or a kayak, your choices have only begun. Canoes and kayaks each come in a myriad of different designs, for different purposes. There is no such thing as the perfect design. For example, making it longer and narrower. will make it faster and easier to paddle with less effort. Making it shorter and wider will make it more stable and easier to turn. See http://www.canoeing.com/canoes/choosing/design.htm.
Joel
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02-22-2015, 08:54 AM
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Hey ... we're always up to try something new. Doesn't look like I could break a rib or anything. Might be great fun and exercise for an afternoon! Cool ride! \ken
PS. Looks like it might be tough to lug around - mebbe even requiring a trailer.
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03-12-2015, 05:45 AM
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I bought a Canoe with a sailing kit! Having lived on Lake of the Ozarks half my life I always wanted to try sailing but it was too expensive and I was busy fishing from a power boat. The sailing a canoe is a great way to try sailing with out getting into too much trouble. I will have some photos and comments on my blog next month. If anyone else out there is sailing a canoe, I would like to exchange tips!!!!!
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05-05-2015, 03:52 PM
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I've never seen a dolphin move so fast, great video.
We are considering a Hobie pedal kayaks that will easily take a sail. Doing research now, lurking various kayak forums.
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05-05-2015, 06:00 PM
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Thanks for the comments on my Dolphin movie. We where in the sail boat and slipped right up on him. We have seen them splashing around like this before but never so close. I was expecting something as large as my Canoe to scare us but turns out we scared him...
I have seen some of those Kayaks with pedals. They do look amazing.
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05-05-2015, 06:07 PM
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sailing canoe hull mated with the deck with inside tapes last fall. Will start the outside seams and outfitting in a couple of weeks. This should be the summer of learning canoe sailing. ;-))
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