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07-10-2017, 01:10 PM
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Retracting Jacks with a Spartan Chassis - Confession Time
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Originally Posted by AFChap
Yes, if you are relatively quick ...don't dally around or sit and idle it. (I have heard of folks who needed less height to get in a door hitting the dump button again just to be sure it stays low enough while moving into the building.) And if the rear is really close, remember to open that rear door before starting it up.
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No rear door, and back in so if I dumped first then back in, wouldn't it move away from the back wall when I start up? Thanks for your help
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07-10-2017, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David D71
For some reason these jacks are set at an angle, vs straight like on my old gasser.
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On both DSDP's we've had ('00 FL and '02 Spartan) the jacks are on a pivot at the frame, sometimes they were straight up and down and others they were slanted.
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07-10-2017, 02:03 PM
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Although I seldom actually use jacks, if I engage the jacks, it will first dump the air. So, if I retract the jacks, I can start the engine and engage the air suspension. If I have an annoying alarm due to low air pressure, I can silence it by depressing the "SET" button under the speedometer (it's a feature of my Ametek Display .... it can also silence a check engine buzzer). My "Jacks" light serves 2 functions ... it indicates Jacks Down but also indicates low air pressure. It turns off at about 90 psi and the "Travel" light illuminates on the HWH panel. So, if you retract the jacks with low air in the system, and turn the Ign key on (or start the engine) the Jacks Down light and alarm can still be on (even though the jacks are fully retracted). Also, my Essex will creep as it airs up or down ... probably 3 inches.
There are lots of variations of HWH systems .... mine is a HWH-2000 with hydraulic or air leveling, air suspension, straight jacks, and hydraulic genset slide.
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07-10-2017, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart W
No rear door, and back in so if I dumped first then back in, wouldn't it move away from the back wall when I start up? Thanks for your help
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It will creep FORWARD when dumped, and BACKWARD as it airs up. SO, in your case you could back in, dump, the ease back just a bit more. MOST IMPORTANT, you would need to move it forward a bit as soon as you start it BEFORE it begins to air up. I think I would be tempted to back it up as close as possible, then dump and leave it where it is if possible. If you move it backward against the wall after dumping the air, and you (or anyone else) ever start it up and forget to immediately move forward you will have potentially expensive damage to the coach and/or garage.
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07-10-2017, 03:26 PM
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Thanks
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07-11-2017, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuart W
Garage 44'4". MH 43'9"
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Hoo boy. That's going to require a precise military operation. Best of luck!
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07-11-2017, 06:56 PM
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Retracting Jacks with a Spartan Chassis - Confession Time
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Hoo boy. That's going to require a precise military operation. Best of luck!
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Agreed looking into options. Like a different garage door that mounts on the outside, it would give me 12 more inches also plan on installing stops to the floor. Any suggestions welcome.
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07-11-2017, 07:32 PM
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With our Jeeps we would let air out of the tires to get 'em in the garage.
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07-11-2017, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
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With our Jeeps we would let air out of the tires to get 'em in the garage.
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Thank you, I'm good in height, door opening is 13'7" and 12 foot wide. It's not ideal but we really want the 4369
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07-12-2017, 07:49 AM
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Before any of you move your MH an inch with air dumped take a look at your driveshaft and u joint angle (bind). I would not do it but it is your Mh so you can do what you want.
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07-12-2017, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
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Before any of you move your MH an inch with air dumped take a look at your driveshaft and u joint angle (bind). I would not do it but it is your Mh so you can do what you want.
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And, have a look at front wheel well clearance ... not usually an issue with wheels straight.
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07-12-2017, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
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Before any of you move your MH an inch with air dumped take a look at your driveshaft and u joint angle (bind). I would not do it but it is your Mh so you can do what you want.
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Good thought, height is not an issue, so no need to dump air.
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07-12-2017, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart W
Good thought, height is not an issue, so no need to dump air.
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Yes, BUT most will leak down over time ...some faster than others.
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07-17-2017, 09:54 PM
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Stuart, if yours (being newer) is like mine then I have an air connection inside the generator compartment that tow trucks use to keep air in the system should it need to be towed. I suggest you buy a good piston compressor and keep 100psi air on your system to keep the bags inflated. It takes 3 weeks for mine to deflate so the compressor won't work overtime. Of course that means due diligence on your part by doing pressure checks every week or so.
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