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Old 09-15-2019, 12:39 AM   #113
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Did you have to use a bottom tap or will a standard one work? I bought a standard tap and bit set, then began to wonder....
Standard was able to get enough quality threads for the grease fitting to easily turn in and get tight.
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Yup, And when on the road, I add 15% for gear reduction losses via the 4X torque multiplier. or 3.4X input = output.

450 ft/lb dry = 360 360/3.4=106 ft/lb input
I invested years learning the toolmaker trade, then spent a couple decades working in a tool and die shop; never once did any instructor or any of my books ever say lubing threads before torquing was acceptable, quite the opposite is true. Anything else is speculation.

Now it's your money and your vehicle to do with as your please, I've stated my position.
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I invested years learning the toolmaker trade, then spent a couple decades working in a tool and die shop; never once did any instructor or any of my books ever say lubing threads before torquing was acceptable, quite the opposite is true. Anything else is speculation.

Now it's your money and your vehicle to do with as your please, I've stated my position.
Ok, Ray, but even the article you linked to advises "When a bolt is lubricated - less torque is required to achieve bolt axial load or tension. Reduction of torques for lubricated vs. dry bolts are indicated in the table below."

Which would indicate "no problem, just adjust your torque accordingly".
Which I have.
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Ok, Ray, but even the article you linked to advises "When a bolt is lubricated - less torque is required to achieve bolt axial load or tension. Reduction of torques for lubricated vs. dry bolts are indicated in the table below."

Which would indicate "no problem, just adjust your torque accordingly".
Which I have.
Mea Culpa, apparently I'm way behind the technology curve; proved myself wrong.
"Note that if torque specified for a dry or slightly oiled bolt torque is applied to a lubricated bolt - the bolt may overload and break."
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Spartan authorized Lazydays in Tampa to replace ALL ball joints and tie rod ends.
Apparently this is a recall issue.
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Spartan authorized Lazydays in Tampa to replace ALL ball joints and tie rod ends.
Apparently this is a recall issue.
2002 UF USQ40WD.
Huh?
For which vehicles?
So I drive to Florida and they do my 2002's for free?
If it is a recall, then the registered owner would have received notification via mail, or if they called Spartan, they can check if their VIN is on the Recall list.
I don't think this is the case.
Now, Spartan might have authorized as a customer goodwill policy adjustment to replace yours...if that is the case..congrats but I don't think they are doing that as a recall. If you have specifics - please let us know!
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Lazydays told me that Spartan had a recall on these faulty ball joints and tie rod ends.
The DPO never bothered with it; nor the Winnebago hydraulic hose recall either.
I bought my UF in May 2018 . I do not know what years this recall applies to .
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Lazydays told me that Spartan had a recall on these faulty ball joints and tie rod ends.
The DPO never bothered with it; nor the Winnebago hydraulic hose recall either.
I bought my UF in May 2018 . I do not know what years this recall applies to .
Sure would like to have a Spartan recall number, or a copy of the paperwork stating this, or even the person's name at Lazydays that gave you this information!
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Call Spartan with your VIN and ask if there are any open recalls, or closed ones for balljoints / tie rod ends. They will definitely tell you if so. Against federal law to withhold.

But, I will bet there is none.

People call Technical Service Bulletins "recalls"...they are very different things. One is "helpful tips", and the other is a mandated free repair to address a safety issue. And then there are Policy Adjustments for just over warranty time, or a "good" customer, or a squeeky wheel, or repeat issue, or a "wink wink" issue that they are aware of and are trying to address it.

A recall is only for safety issues. Believe it or not, a balljoint boot might not be considered a safety concern. Just depends on the discussion between the OEM and NHTSA. Sometimes an OEM can "sell" NHTSA that they will "wink wink" the issue when a customer brings it to their attention.
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..... wondering if I can get Spartan to send me a check for the cost of my now replaced Ball joints.....

Send me a check!, I'll even settle for parts credit! Ha-ha

I'm thinking that either the poster here, or lazydays is confused about this. I'd have a hard time believing my 20+ y/o front end would be part of any recall.
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..... wondering if I can get Spartan to send me a check for the cost of my now replaced Ball joints.....

Send me a check!, I'll even settle for parts credit! Ha-ha

I'm thinking that either the poster here, or lazydays is confused about this. I'd have a hard time believing my 20+ y/o front end would be part of any recall.
It all depends on how many went bad and if NHTSA believes it to be a signficant safety hazard ie: a 20ton block of iron going 70 mph aimlessly down the road.
But, typically if there was to be a recall, it would have happened a long time ago.

I remember having to hire a whole bunch of folks to find old Renault Medallion cars in backyards, junkyards, etc to do a heater core replacement to increase the recall completion percentage. The old cores were breaking and could put hot water on the passenger.
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