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11-13-2018, 12:27 PM
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External Power Outlet breaker?
Update, never mind - I figured it out. The bathroom also has a GFCI and resetting that did the trick. Who'd a figured the bathroom and the external were linked.
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So, I've got a 2017 SSXL2551 Cruise Lite. Recently, I noticed that there is no longer power to the external outlets. I cannot find a breaker and while the switch claims to be GFCI, there does not appear to be a reset button.
Can anyone recommend where I might find the breaker for this? I've checked the panel, but nothing is tripped and no fuse appears to be bad. Dealer/MF (whomever) Labels on panel suck in terms of identifying circuits. Or maybe I am ignorant of terminology.
Pulling hair out over this one, Anybody have any suggestions?
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11-13-2018, 12:35 PM
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Check your interior GFCI breakers in the kitchen and bathroom. Also check all of the other cabinets for a GFCI breaker.
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11-13-2018, 02:48 PM
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Same with our Georgetown
GFI is in the Bathroom
Any plug that can get wet is protected by GFI
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11-13-2018, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AB7OH
Check your interior GFCI breakers in the kitchen and bathroom. Also check all of the other cabinets for a GFCI breaker.
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You will not find GFI breakers in the kitchen and bath. You will find GFI outlets. Breakers are in the electric panel. Outlets do not trip on overload.
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11-13-2018, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RELHUB
Same with our Georgetown
GFI is in the Bathroom
Any plug that can get wet is protected by GFI
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Any plug within 6" of water.
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11-13-2018, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeLikeCampin
Update, never mind - I figured it out. The bathroom also has a GFCI and resetting that did the trick. Who'd a figured the bathroom and the external were linked.
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So, I've got a 2017 SSXL2551 Cruise Lite. Recently, I noticed that there is no longer power to the external outlets. I cannot find a breaker and while the switch claims to be GFCI, there does not appear to be a reset button.
Can anyone recommend where I might find the breaker for this? I've checked the panel, but nothing is tripped and no fuse appears to be bad. Dealer/MF (whomever) Labels on panel suck in terms of identifying circuits. Or maybe I am ignorant of terminology.
Pulling hair out over this one, Anybody have any suggestions?
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It's been that way since the late 90's. The breaker is in the breaker box labled GFI. The GFI on the circuit is in the bathroom or in the kitchen or in an outside storage compartment. GFI's cover any outlet that is within 6" of water. GFI outlets do not trip on overload. The breaker does.
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11-14-2018, 10:34 AM
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Thanks, everybody for all the information. After carefully checking the circuits again, there is a breaker labeled "GFI". It was not tripped. However, the GFCI outlet in the bathroom WAS tripped, requiring a reset - so, not to argue or anything, but technically, the outlet can trip on overload.
From Safeelectricity.org:
How does a GFCI work?
The GFCI will “sense” the difference in the amount of electricity flowing into the circuit to that flowing out, even in amounts of current as small as 4 or 5 milliamps. The GFCI reacts quickly (less than one-tenth of a second) to trip or shut off the circuit.
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11-14-2018, 11:07 AM
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Our outside outlets also are connected to the GFI located in the bathroom! We have the ACE 29.2 2013
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11-15-2018, 04:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
GFI outlets trip on amperage leakage with in the circuit NOT amperage overload!
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Breakers are there to protect the wiring. GFI's are there to protect people.
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11-15-2018, 07:13 AM
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I had a crack on the fiberglass. Everytime it rained the water would seep through and get onto the back of my external power outlet causing my GFI to trip. I finally caulked over the small crack in the fiberglass. I have never had a problem since.
1979 Dodge Tioga Class C 24 foot. 1987 Fleetwood Bounder 34 Foot.
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11-15-2018, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lenkerb
Our outside outlets also are connected to the GFI located in the bathroom! We have the ACE 29.2 2013
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GFI's are installed on any circuit that has outlets that are within 6' OF ANY WATER SUPPLY.
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11-15-2018, 07:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeLikeCampin
- so, not to argue or anything, but technically, the outlet can trip on overload.
From Safeelectricity.org:
How does a GFCI work?
The GFCI will “sense” the difference in the amount of electricity flowing into the circuit to that flowing out, even in amounts of current as small as 4 or 5 milliamps. The GFCI reacts quickly (less than one-tenth of a second) to trip or shut off the circuit.
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They don't trip on overload; there is no such mechanism in the receptacles. They trip on a ground fault, which is current flowing through the equipment grounding conductor, or through Mother Earth (which is bonded to the system in a jillion places) instead of the neutral, and that usually happens when a person's body completes the circuit back to the source through earth or a grounded surface (like the grounded frame of an appliance), which is what it's there to protect against.
Current flows from the source, through the load, and back to the source, but if a body diverts even a small amount from the normal circuit (source>hot>load>neutral>source, then reversing direction 1/120th second later, and so on), the GFCI receptacle breaks the circuit's 'hot' to clear the fault and remove the hazard to human life.
The circuit breaker or fuse is there to protect the circuit from overcurrent and possible fire.
Edit: What cavie said a few posts up. ^^^^^^^^
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