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ggimlick · 03-17-2015, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PDR John

If you can, now would be a great time to add centronic balance disk.

I wasn't familiar with this device, but a bit of googling found it. That's a nice way of doing balance beads without the internal mess. When I had the new tires put on last year, they installed balance beads and the ride has been incredibly better, but they cause other problems when it comes to making a dusty mess inside the tire and clogging valves. That's one of my worries with the TPMS sensors.

I've been told it's not an issue, but time will tell.

wingnut60 · 03-17-2015, 08:52 PM

I believe you are talking about Centramatic Wheel Balancers--
Tire Balance and Wheel Balancing from Centramatic
I have had them on my 450 for over 110k miles with no balance problems, nor unusual tire wear. Just bought 4 for my fifth wheel.
They are made about 10 miles from my home, and I accidentally found out about them when trying to get the front end checked.
Haven't had a lead weight on the wheels since I got the balancers--I am a believer in them. No fuss, no mess. Even the worst tire 'tech' can't mess them up, unless he forgets to put them back on.
Joe

Knightab · 03-18-2015, 11:41 AM

LOL, this is ironic. I began reading this thread from the beginning. On 6/29/2010 Lost Again asked the question "Why doesn't any answer my quiry on your page". Ironically they didn't answer this question either! LOL

Dave1194 · 03-19-2015, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightab

LOL, this is ironic. I began reading this thread from the beginning. On 6/29/2010 Lost Again asked the question "Why doesn't any answer my quiry on your page". Ironically they didn't answer this question either! LOL

Use the "Quote" button and post your question one more time. I'm not sure what your question was.

Knightab · 03-19-2015, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lostagain

Why doesn't anyone answer my inquiry on your contact us page

Dave, it was not a question but a remark to the above post. They never answered his question here either! LOL they answered questions before and after his. Luck of the draw I guess

ggimlick · 03-19-2015, 07:27 AM

One more update on my TPMS install.....I took the coach in to the truck place to have some service work done and instructed them to put new valve stems in the two outside duals and one of the front tires. This was so the sensors would be on the stems and not extensions...pretty clear, right? I got a call this morning saying it was ready, but before going out to get it, I asked if they were able to get the stems we wanted. He said they were working with the extensions. I reminded him the work order called for "new valve stems on outside duals and front right tires". He said, "the tech says they're not leaking and working fine" I reminded him I've spent over $3000 with new tires and chasing stem leaks in the past year and the job order was for new valve stems.

Did that seem that difficult? Holy crap! Now the parts guy is looking for the stems.

**JohnRR** · 03-19-2015, 08:52 AM

If the stems are just a little out of alignment why not have the retaining nuts on them loosened up a very little bit and just move the stem to where the sensors will fit and re-tighten the nuts?

I will admit I may not be understanding your problem.

PDR John · 03-19-2015, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingnut60

I believe you are talking about Centramatic Wheel Balancers--
Tire Balance and Wheel Balancing from Centramatic
I have had them on my 450 for over 110k miles with no balance problems, nor unusual tire wear. Just bought 4 for my fifth wheel.
They are made about 10 miles from my home, and I accidentally found out about them when trying to get the front end checked.
Haven't had a lead weight on the wheels since I got the balancers--I am a believer in them. No fuss, no mess. Even the worst tire 'tech' can't mess them up, unless he forgets to put them back on.
Joe

Yes, you are correct. I corrected myself in a PM, but forgot to post in here.

Thanks

caninecop · 03-19-2015, 03:07 PM

I wasn’t sure where to post this, here on the TST or Towing. I have extra sensors that I want to place on my Jeep. My jeep has OEM TPMS, has anyone added TST TPMS sensors on a jeep that has OEM TPMS that is being towed? I think I know the process of setting up sensors and monitor. After reading the blog below I am a little concerned. If anyone has done this I would appreciate your input and how you setup the high and low.

Warning: External TPMS Sensors Could Ruin Your Towed Vehicle Valve Stems! | My Quantum Discovery

PDR John · 03-19-2015, 03:24 PM

What year Jeep?

I've had mine on a 05 and now a 14 Grand Cherokee. The 05 had aluminum threads which started to cause an issue at the 3 year marker. The sensors where left on full time, even in South Dakota winters. The liquid deicer used up there caused more problems then the sensors.

The 14 has brass threads, there will be no problems.

Bainbridge · 03-19-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnRR

If the stems are just a little out of alignment why not have the retaining nuts on them loosened up a very little bit and just move the stem to where the sensors will fit and re-tighten the nuts?

I will admit I may not be understanding your problem.

Is that possible? I have 22.5 Alcoa rims and the stems on the outer duals face inward through one of the 2 inch holes in the rim. I asked the RV dealer service manager if I could loosen the nuts and rotate the stems 90 degrees to mount the sensors. He said no and I had to modify 2 180 degree valve extensions to mount the sensors. I didn't want to try it and possibly break the stem and be "up the creek" since I can't break the 450 ft. lb. lug nuts to remove a wheel.

Bob B.

**JohnRR** · 03-20-2015, 12:40 AM

The outer dual stems are supposed to point to the center of the vehicle towards the "hand" holes they are called that because that's what they are a place to put your hands in. The correct way to mount the wheels is so the valve stems are 180 degrees apart with the stems facing inwards and in alignment with the holes. The hand holes on the steel wheels are a pretty good size the holes in the aluminum wheels not so big.

I don't use them on mine I lay on the ground and stick my hands between the dual tires to attach the sensors after topping the tires off with air every few years.

When I mentioned loosening and moving the stems I meant just a few degrees.

I can take and send some pictures if you think you need them.

Mr_D · 03-20-2015, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ggimlick

I wasn't familiar with this device, but a bit of googling found it. That's a nice way of doing balance beads without the internal mess. When I had the new tires put on last year, they installed balance beads and the ride has been incredibly better, but they cause other problems when it comes to making a dusty mess inside the tire and clogging valves. That's one of my worries with the TPMS sensors.

I've been told it's not an issue, but time will tell.

If they used the beads and didn't install filters then you probably will have problems although one of the bead brands says they don't need the filters.

ggimlick · 03-20-2015, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRR

If the stems are just a little out of alignment why not have the retaining nuts on them loosened up a very little bit and just move the stem to where the sensors will fit and re-tighten the nuts? I will admit I may not be understanding your problem.

I tried that and with the original stems, it won't turn to an angle that works with the sensors. Alcoa actually does make a 90 degree stem for the outside dual that points outward. I just got a call from the truck place saying it was ready and they put new stems on the outside duals that face outward with the sensor mounted directly to the valve stem.

I'll know in an hour or so when I got see what they've done. They said the front stem was adjusted so it lines up with the center of the hole like the other side and the sensor went on.

I've got my fingers crossed.