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01-02-2018, 09:26 AM
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1984 pace arrow
Greetings, I'm new to RV'ing and this site. I purchased a barn find 1984 pace arrow (32ft).. I had to the have the tank relined (I think its a 50 gallon) but I cant find the in tank fuel pump to save my life.. its a p30 chassis. its about 15 inches in length with only 2 inlet/outlets.. the RV has a 454. Any help would be appreciated.
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01-02-2018, 09:40 AM
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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!
Can't help with the problem but wanted to say hello!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
Happy New Year!
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01-02-2018, 10:03 AM
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I once was the owner of a 1983 Southwind motorhome on a Chevy with a 454 engine. As I recall, there was no fuel pump inside the tank and the only pump was the one on the engine. The gas line ran along the C channel and was close to the exhaust pipe. It was prone to vapor locking. I finally fixed it by installing an electric pump back near the gas tank.
Dick L. 04 HR IMPERIAL
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01-02-2018, 10:06 AM
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I just checked RCL and I believe you are correct all the pictures are of a block mounted fuel pump when it is googled.
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01-02-2018, 10:23 AM
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it does have a block mounted fuel pump but additionally it has the fuel sending unit/pre-pump in the tank as well.
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01-02-2018, 10:50 AM
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You have a picture posted of the main and generator engine fuel pickups, along with the fuel level sender unit.
If there was an in tank pump, it would be incorporated in that unit.
Unless there is one in the fuel line between the tank and engine, along the chassis, there isn't one.
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01-02-2018, 10:55 AM
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it actually does supply fuel to the main pump.. the smaller outlet is for the generator fuel
pump.. hope this info helps.
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01-02-2018, 10:59 AM
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Look on the passenger frame by back tires for a pump and regulator
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01-02-2018, 12:45 PM
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As others have said, what you're picturing is a fuel pickup(s) and gauge sending unit. No pump. There may be an inline pump somewhere on the chassis in addition to the block mounted mechanical pump, but there may not.
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01-03-2018, 12:21 AM
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National RV Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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I would post in the Workhorse Chevrolet Chassis Owners forum. Might be someone there that is more knowledgeable about your chassis.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f22/
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01-03-2018, 01:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RCLImperial
I once was the owner of a 1983 Southwind motorhome on a Chevy with a 454 engine. As I recall, there was no fuel pump inside the tank and the only pump was the one on the engine. The gas line ran along the C channel and was close to the exhaust pipe. It was prone to vapor locking. I finally fixed it by installing an electric pump back near the gas tank.
Dick L. 04 HR IMPERIAL
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Exact Ditto to Dick
I had an 87 27Y with the exact same setup, problem, and fix. There is no pump in the tank but that hose is prone to cracking as well as the barb male to 1/2" adapter to the pipe forward. If you don't have an electric pump, install one now and avoid future headache
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01-03-2018, 07:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quincy
I just checked RCL and I believe you are correct all the pictures are of a block mounted fuel pump when it is googled.
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Googling '84 P-30 fuel pump only brings up a block mounted pump. So it looks like there is no pump in the tank or anywhere else.
Also what is a pre pump? The Sending Unit is for the fuel gage to indicate the fuel level in the tank, nothing more.
Those guys with Workhorse chassis are babies compared to us P-30 owners. And former P-30 owners. Workhorse was introduced mid to late 90's along with the 8.1L motor.
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01-03-2018, 08:13 AM
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The one other thing about my 83 Southwind that I remembered was that it was prone to eating fan belts and spark plug wires. The fan belt was a single v-belt that drove the fan, water pump, air (smog) pump and alternator. The belt tension was critical. Too tight and the belt broke, too loose and it slipped. On our maiden trip, the alternator voltage dropped (slipping) and I had it tested in Florida (OK) I tightened it up and it then broke in Texas. I always carried a spare. I think that Chevy went to a flat belt a couple of years later.
The spark plug wires were a problem because of the engine heat and also were sensitive to routing. The factory routing kept the wires for a firing cylinder away from the wire for a cylinder in the intake cycle because the spark would jump to the intake cylinder and fire it, causing a noise like a sneeze. This usually happened under load, like climbing a hill. The short wire life was fixed by switching to NAPA lifetime wires, which were available anywhere in the country.
I kept that motorhome for about 16 years and 140K miles before upgrading to a diesel pusher.
Dick L. 04 HR Imperial
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01-03-2018, 08:26 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Back in '84 I was a Chevy dealer tech who specialized in P30 motor homes.
Most of the units under about 32' didn't have a second electric pump, only the engine mounted pump. Some of the longer or higher end coaches did have a second pump from the factory. Many of these were in the same compartment as the fuel filler along with a secondary, cartridge type fuel filter.
It's fairly easy to follow the fuel line down the frame from the engine to the tank. If you don't find a pump, it's not all that hard to add one. It will be worth it if you travel in the mountains.
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