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08-11-2016, 04:36 PM
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2000 National Tradewinds 7373 Turn Signal
I have 2000 National Tradewinds 7373 that the Turn Signal and 4 way flashers have quit working on. I have checked fuses as best I could in panel by drivers seat. I have not located a turn signal flasher. If anyone knows where the flasher is or any other help would be appreciated.
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08-11-2016, 05:47 PM
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Welcome to iRV2.
It would be odd to loose both systems at the same time, as they have separate fuses and flashers .
Have you checked that the brake lights are operating ?
If you have no brake lights , then the multiple connector for the switch wiring at the base of the steering column , would be a place to check , as sometimes they can get kicked apart.
Is your National , on a Freightliner chassis?
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2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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08-11-2016, 06:32 PM
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Thanks for the reply. It is a Freightliner Chassis. Brake lights do work.
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08-11-2016, 06:49 PM
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I'm involved in another post with an owner of a 99 Tradewinds on F/L and was surprised by the differences in the way the coaches are wired , his fuse box looks nothing like mine.
His flasher was mounted in the bottom corner of the under dash fuse box and mine are hanging between the two fuse/relay boxes on the outside of the firewall above the gen set ; and the boxes are nothing alike.
I'll dig up photos of my location and link you to his post. BRB.
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08-11-2016, 07:00 PM
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Ok the other post , shows an under dash fuse box with a flasher in one corner.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f105/elec...ds-303495.html
Photo , yellow circle , both flashers side by side between my fuse and relay boxes , the numbers on the boxes are the last of my serial number , so I'm thinking F/L must custom build wiring harnesses.
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08-11-2016, 08:37 PM
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Where is the fuse panel with the flashers located?
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08-11-2016, 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howbowthat
Where is the fuse panel with the flashers located?
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That photo on my Newmar , is taken with the hood open , the boxes are on the outside of the firewall below the windshield, above the gen set.
HOWEVER , the boxes are attached to the main wiring harness by about 5 feet of wiring so coach manufacturers could mount them anywhere within 5 feet of that location , or the end of the drivers side frame rail , where the wires exit the main harness.
There can be a multitude of differences between coach builders , and as I've found out , between F/L chassis , built in the same year.
Sounds like a phone call to the Freightliner free help line is in order ; have your serial number handy. Ask them to send you , wiring diagrams and schematics for your chassis. The diagrams will show the dimensions of the wiring harness , in metric ( cms) and the length of all side harnesses attached , once you locate a known part of the harness ( connection between frame and dash harness is easiest, finding other items is fairly easy.
Also inquire about joining " Access Freightliner" takes a while but you get online access to parts and wiring info for your chassis.
1-800-385-4357
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08-12-2016, 05:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howbowthat
I have 2000 National Tradewinds 7373 that the Turn Signal and 4 way flashers have quit working on. I have checked fuses as best I could in panel by drivers seat. I have not located a turn signal flasher. If anyone knows where the flasher is or any other help would be appreciated.
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On my 99 Tradewinds the flasher in in the fuse box beside the driver seat, do your overhead map lights work? My fuse is in a pig tail like holder works turn signal, map lights, and radio. Go to owner forum National and their is a lot of information about this.
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08-12-2016, 06:37 AM
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Thanks. I will check this.
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08-12-2016, 06:38 AM
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Thanks to all. I will go to National forum.
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08-12-2016, 09:46 AM
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I have checked all of your suggestions, even called Freightliner, I still have not located a turn signal flasher. If anyone knows where the flasher is or any other help would be appreciated.
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08-13-2016, 06:33 PM
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Did Freightliner send you wiring diagrams and a schematic ??
If they did I'd like to see them , to see how much they differ from mine .
After a real close examination of the location of my flashers , I found the attached wires , to be 3 feet long from there exit from the main harness , add to that the 2 feet the fuse/relay boxes are from the same point on the harness the flashers could have been located 5 feet from where they are.
I'm glad Newmar put them where they did.
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08-17-2016, 03:44 AM
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There was a panel just forward and to the left of drivers seat. The flashers were tucked away inside. Thanks to all!!
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08-17-2016, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howbowthat
There was a panel just forward and to the left of drivers seat. The flashers were tucked away inside. Thanks to all!!
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Were the flashers , hanging from the wiring ; as in my photo ; or plugged into a fuse panel?
Did new flashers cure your problems?
I'm still trying to figure out if National coaches on Freightliner chassis , have a different wiring harness than Newmar; or if there was a mid year production up-date to the harnesses .
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2000 Caravan toad, Remco & Blue Ox.
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