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Old 12-11-2014, 07:13 PM   #15
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Another vote for CC. We have close friends with a 1998 Magna. Still looks new,rides great. If the records are there to support the obvious visual inspection coupled with a third party qualified survey, your in for one fine coach.
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Old 12-11-2014, 08:00 PM   #16
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.....When were the rigs last moved and how often? Diesels seem to suffer if they aren't driven around for 1/2 hour or so every month, the last I heard. Many of the discussions I read indicated that just idling them in storage doesn't get it done and may actually generate more problems.......
Letting a diesel sit does nothing to make it "suffer". Your comment about letting a diesel idle in storage applies to any internal combustion motor. If you are going to have the coach idle for a number of months, it is best to let it sit if you can't drive it a number of miles to get ALL systems up to operating temperature..

If I had the choice between a CC or a Tiffin, it would be a CC for me. I have looked at Tiffins and there are some things that are done on the cheap. Don't get me wrong, Tiffin makes a nice coach but CC built them better but then again I am kinda biased.
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Old 12-11-2014, 09:08 PM   #17
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One thing to consider on the CC is does it have a CAT C-15 engine? Cat was getting out of the highway diesel market then and there are a number of lawsuits over the C-15 engine.
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Old 12-11-2014, 11:20 PM   #18
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Find out which floor plan the D/W likes best. If she hates one floor plan that makes the decision easier.
Interesting answer. Versus no Rv? Good point. Country coach for sure but tread lightly If she does not like it?

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Old 12-11-2014, 11:29 PM   #19
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I would go with the Magma. Much higher quality.
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Old 12-12-2014, 12:59 AM   #20
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One thing to consider on the CC is does it have a CAT C-15 engine? Cat was getting out of the highway diesel market then and there are a number of lawsuits over the C-15 engine.
I can understand CAT wanting to get out of the highway diesel market because of their inability (or unwillingness) to comply with current emissions controls regulations. I am not aware of the lawsuits over the C-15 engines. Can you expand on this?

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I would go with the Magma. Much higher quality.
+1 Way more coach.
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2008 Country Coach Magna or 2010 Zephyr

I want to thank all of you that chimed in. Each and every one brought up good points that one ought to consider when making such a decision - that is another reason why irv2 readers care and share their thoughts.
As an update I wasn't really at a point to make a buying decision now, but it is my understanding that the CC is being sold to CCI (Country Coach Inc.) out in Oregon. It had Cummins 600hp engine not a CAT. The Zephyr may have also been sold - I'm not exactly sure.
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Per B Bob "One of my best friends bought a Dutch Star that had sat for 18 months waiting to be sold. It took him two years to get the lot rot out of it."

Per F14av8r "I'd be leary of a diesel that hasn't been run regularly if the owner can't produce solid maintenance records....Your diesel needs maintenance and it needs it when either the mile or time values are reached. Filters age and fluids deterioriate over time, regardless of the number of miles run. I've seen air filters that were literally sucked into the engine because the binding straps on the filter media became brittle and let go of the media. Those are expensive repairs... you disregard the manufacturer recommended schedule at great risk. And, I won't buy a diesel from anybody that can't demostrate they've followed the schedule - time or distance, whichever comes first....Finally, here is a heads up. If you buy a unit that has sat on the lot for awhile, make sure the dealer did the time related maintenance that was specified by the chassis manufacturer. If not, you may be in for a big surprise when you go for your first service and find out you have quite a bit of catch up work to do."
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CC for sure, super unit!
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I want to thank all of you that chimed in. Each and every one brought up good points that one ought to consider when making such a decision - that is another reason why irv2 readers care and share their thoughts.
As an update I wasn't really at a point to make a buying decision now, but it is my understanding that the CC is being sold to CCI (Country Coach Inc.) out in Oregon. It had Cummins 600hp engine not a CAT. The Zephyr may have also been sold - I'm not exactly sure.
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Most, if not all the coaches for sale by Country Coach are on consignment. They do have a 2008 Magna on their website.
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I can understand CAT wanting to get out of the highway diesel market because of their inability (or unwillingness) to comply with current emissions controls regulations. I am not aware of the lawsuits over the C-15 engines. Can you expand on this?

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Just Google "Cat C-15 Lawsuits" and you'll get pages of results. From my reading it appears that many 2007-2010 C-15 and C-13 engines suffered repeated costly internal engine failures. The lawsuits even include a class action filing.

Here's a link to one article: At Least 15 Lawsuits vs. Cat on ACERT Diesels Include Trucks, Buses - News - TruckingInfo.com
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I want to thank all of you that chimed in. Each and every one brought up good points that one ought to consider when making such a decision - that is another reason why irv2 readers care and share their thoughts.
As an update I wasn't really at a point to make a buying decision now, but it is my understanding that the CC is being sold to CCI (Country Coach Inc.) out in Oregon. It had Cummins 600hp engine not a CAT. The Zephyr may have also been sold - I'm not exactly sure.
Thanks, again, for every one's input!!
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The Country Coach folks in Junction City, OR sell coaches on consignment so that is probably the case. You can check their website for the coaches they have and they do have several Magna's. Another great source for clean, well maintained CC's is Premier RV which is next door the CC in Junction City.
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I guess I'm a little prejudiced in this discussion. Although I would not hesitate to get into a Zephyr, the CC is a higher caliber of coach. There will not be a great deal of difference in technology between the two although there might be some.


The one thing that would be nice with my Magna would be to have all electronics updated, but then again mine is 2 years older than the one you mentioned.
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