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Old 09-08-2014, 12:00 AM   #1
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Any thoughts or pros or cons about a front mounted diesel.

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Old 09-08-2014, 01:31 AM   #2
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There have been a few discussions on the FRED chassis ( FRont Engine Diesel ).
From what I've read the consensus is a step above gas powered , due to the added power, but slightly noisier.
I'll see if I can track one of the posts and link you to it.

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Old 09-08-2014, 05:04 AM   #3
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GENERALLY speaking, when folks talk about "fred" chassis, they are referring to a FCCC built chassis with a Cummins engine.

FWIW, the Serrano used the Workhorse W20D chassis with a Navistar Maxxforce 7 motor.
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Old 09-08-2014, 11:48 AM   #4
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Had a 2011 that I bought new.....it was the biggest piece of junk I've ever owned.....my happiest moment came when I unloaded it on my new Phaeton. In my time of owning it, I had SO many problems I was VERY afraid to even get it out on the road because I KNEW something was going to break down.

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Old 09-08-2014, 11:58 AM   #5
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Sorry.....let me answer the specific question: The Maxxforce Navistar diesel was a good running (somewhat underpowered) drivetrain. It got SUPER gas mileage. It wasn't as noisy as I was led to believe.....actually once at highway speed it was fairly quiet (could carry on a conversation with no problem). The drivetrain was the only part of the coach that never gave me a problem.

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Old 09-08-2014, 12:01 PM   #6
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I've had a 31V for 3yrs now. We love it. Has it had problems, yup. We're they fixable you bet. Have a look at the various forms, the one common denominator seems to be quality and thats regardless of how much you spend.
I have about 30,000 miles on mine, currently I'm getting about 12.5 MPG/US gal w/ a toad.
People talk about noise, No it's not as quite as a DP. Once the plant warms up the sound becomes a nice purr. I personally like to hear a bit of my engine anyway.
Be realistic in your expectations, your not buying a Provost but as far as bang for the buck goes my wife and I feel we got a good deal.
Another thing to remember when reading in this or other forms, people only come here, for the most part, to B'tch or complain. It's the nature of the beast. Very few actually write positive reviews about anything, it gets done just not in or at the same volume as the negtive posts. Human nature I guess.
If you have any specific questions please feel free to PM me.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:36 PM   #7
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The chassis on our Serrano was very good. Rode well, engine noise was an issue only when you put your foot in it, mileage was around 10-12 (we lived in the mountains), and power was adequate. Never pulled a car, but couldn't even tell the motorcycle trailer was back there. The Alison transmission was a joy!

Two drawbacks to consider:
1) No engine brake. The transmission did what it could, but I sure would have like an engine brake.
2) That small fuel tank can get you in real trouble. 40 gallons just ain't much when you need diesel, are traveling the back roads of the west, and can't get in and out of just any old place. We ran it down to the computer showing 1 gallon once - it wasn't fun. And the bottom half of the tank disappears really fast.
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I'd like to add.....there are those of us who will tell the you truth as well, some people don't like the truth and therefor label it as "B'tch and complain". I'd like to think most of my posts are positive while trying to be helpful. When I bought my Serrano......we had/developed a huge mail group who were all having serious problems with the unit. I've owned 3 brand new coach's......2 have been wonderful.....one had major problems with every major component on it (Serrano).
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