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Old 02-20-2013, 01:05 PM   #15
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I too have a 2012 Monaco 36' with the MaxxForce 10 engine. I pull a 6500lb trailer often up and down mountainous roads (400ft to 7200ft and 7% grades) with no problem. The unit is rated to pull 10,000lbs and in my opinion you should have no problem.
So do you have the turbo exhaust brake? Or did you equip with a Jake brke? Which one do you have and is it awesome or just OK
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:22 PM   #16
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In my 2012 Monaco owners manual it states the following:
GVWR 33,000
GCWR 43,000
GAWR (Front) 13,000
GAWR (Rear) 20,000
Hitch is rated for 10,000

I have not weighed my RV yet so I can't say how close to the 33,000 it is.
That being said I think I will weight this init before purchase. I'm thinking i should use my torsion hitch
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:26 PM   #17
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I have a 2011Monaco Cayman[Knight] 36PFT with a 340hp cummins I would not be able to pull that combination but with the torque you have in thwe 2013 and if it is an Allison 3000 not a 2500 you should be fine. I agree with the other posters that you will be maxed out on your weights.
But what would concern me more is that these coaches are rear end heavy and do not handle well if you ad that amount of hitch weight and 30 ft of trailer IMHO you will have a white knuckle time of it in the least bit of wind.I pull a 26 ft riverboat at about 5000lbs. if a wind comes up on a freeway it is not a pleasant experience. I would suggest looking at a 40 ft Knight, its wheel base is 4ft longer and much more stable. As far as the coach goes we love it, but hopefully you are aware that Navistar , Monacos parent is financially in trouble and Monaco is for sale. That could present problems down the line.
What do you think if I use my torsion hitch? Crank it tight
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:45 PM   #18
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I drive a 2011 Knight 40' with the maxxforce 10 pull a 4dr jeep wrangler been all through mountains never a power issue. No issues whatsoever with the motor approx 15000 miles right now.
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When in doubt, work the numbers, the tow rating is the lower of:

1. GCWR minus RV's actual weight (if it's not over GVWR).

2. Hitch capacity.

3. Coach tow rating.

4. Chassis maker's tow rating.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:04 PM   #20
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So do you have the turbo exhaust brake? Or did you equip with a Jake brke? Which one do you have and is it awesome or just OK
It came with a 3 stage Jake brake. It really helps and I wouldn't be without one.
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That being said I think I will weight this init before purchase. I'm thinking i should use my torsion hitch
Our 2011 36pft knight with the MF 10 engine. Full fuel,full water and full gear and 2 weeks of food and stuff on board weighed right at 31 k. I would be hard pressed to get it up to 33 k. Pulled the big mountains outside of Phoenix thru Payson Az to Albuquerque with no problems at all. Not towing at the time but I had power to spare and then some, and yes the three stage engine brake is a wonderful safety device.
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2011 Knight with the three stage Jake brake. Love the brake and the coach pulling a jeep climbs like a goat. That said the jeep weighs something like 4,800 pounds.

I use the Air Force One brake system and can verify in an emergency stop they will lock up the jeep brakes.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:37 PM   #23
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I advise you to check at the noise at the rear of the unit, which transforms to the engine noise INSIDE the Motor home, to a Motor home with a Cummins...

CLACK CLACK CLACK does not exist with a Cummins..





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I'm considering buying a new 2013 Monaco Knight 36' with the maxxforce 10 rated at 350HP and 1150 torque. I plan to pull a 30' box trailer at about 10K lbs. Any pointers? What rep does this motor have? And cooling it is a rear radiator.
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I think in the end you will have wished you went with a DP. Just my 2 cents. If you PM me I will be willing to set up a call to you and maybe help you out. Good luck and keep us posted.
Well Mr. Wizard, you need to get up to date on your MH and engines. That is a DP and the engine is an International, their new MaxForce line.:facepal m:
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:38 AM   #25
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I'm glad i did not buy that Monaco Maxxforce. I was at Swartz Diesel the other day inquiring about boosting a Cummins. The International Rep was at the shop. Don and myself ask him about the maxxforce. he admitted they are having nothing but problems. EGR valve leaking coolant into exhaust for one.
I have decided on a used Camelot with a 400 Cummins. Stay with what is proven
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You will love the Camelot enjoy.
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The CCC calculation is relevant to the earlier comments that the tongue weight of the trailer reduces the CCC. And yes, it does, since the tongue weight is part of the owner added load in/on the coach and becomes part of the CCC allowance..

But it has nothing to do with GCWR or towing capacity.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:37 AM   #28
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Well things have changed. I still have not signed on the dotted line. I was at the RV show at CalEXpo in Sacramento today. LaMesa RV had a display. A rep from Holiday Rambler was there and spent plenty of time with me and a couple of the salesman. I'm back on board with the Maxxforce 10. I put a deposit on a 2013 Holiday Rambler Ambassador 36'. I sure I hope I'm making the right decision. The truth is I really wont know until I'm on the road pulling the trailer on hills and canyon roads. I just can only hope i dont have problems with the EGR. I pray I dont have any problems.
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