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Old 03-19-2016, 12:37 AM   #15
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Michelin has 0 warranty on sidewall cracks. Goodyear G670's have a 7 year sidewall warranty on cracks.

Replaced my G670's at 10 years 4 months. I will replace them again in 2025 if I am still around then.
That's the first I heard they have no sidewall warranty on cracks. Maybe on punctures but then that's all tire makers. Puncture the sidewall it's your dime.
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Got nice reply from Toyo: Sum; Go to your local dealer and have them size your tire per your RV needs. I understand their position. Will do that. As it looks from the above posts, the 295/75 will work fine.

Just got off the phone with Less Schwab in Grants Pass, Or. The 4 rear tires in Toyo M154 H rated, 295/75R22.5 out the door price is $1950.48. ~488/tire. No balance because on rear. I chose this size because of the way this thread has been going. Thanks, all, for the good info.

Maybe in a couple of weeks I can do this.

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Got nice reply from Toyo: Sum; Go to your local dealer and have them size your tire per your RV needs. I understand their position. Will do that. As it looks from the above posts, the 295/75 will work fine.

Just got off the phone with Less Schwab in Grants Pass, Or. The 4 rear tires in Toyo M154 H rated, 295/75R22.5 out the door price is $1950.48. ~488/tire. No balance because on rear. I chose this size because of the way this thread has been going. Thanks, all, for the good info.

Maybe in a couple of weeks I can do this.

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I disagree with this. Even though on the rear, where you may not feel the vibration from out-of-balance tires, does not mean that tires, wheel bearings suspension are unaffected. For the little add'l cost, at least put balancing beads in the rears. (and IMO, spin-balance the fronts).
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I disagree with this. Even though on the rear, where you may not feel the vibration from out-of-balance tires, does not mean that tires, wheel bearings suspension are unaffected. For the little add'l cost, at least put balancing beads in the rears. (and IMO, spin-balance the fronts).
Yep, I balance he Steers/Drives/Tags, and also have Centramatics on al axles too. The cost of balance spread over 5-7 years, is not that much more!

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Rick; YES get the rears balanced too, the constant vibration due to out of balance can effect everything from the rear axle seals to the differential its self.
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That's the first I heard they have no sidewall warranty on cracks. Maybe on punctures but then that's all tire makers. Puncture the sidewall it's your dime.
Check Page 4 bottom left.
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OK all. I'll get the balance done. Ad $30/wheel to my post above (if I remember correctly). Thanks.
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Wheel balancers between the rear duals works out GREAT. Sanford
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re: dual wheel spacing. This webpage details how to measure/calculate the spacing, and why proper spacing is important. The usual minimum spacing for dual wheels is 1.5" between sidewalls, measured without jacks supporting vehicle weight.
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Most common problem with Michelin for us RVers. Toyo coming to my rig soon.

Doing car today. The Continental OEM are rough riding and thud. Had them checked by the dealer and "nothing was found wrong". This particular set are junk in my opinion.
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tire update

I got the Toyo's put on the cr-v yesterday. The car rides and handles so well now. I have not gone far, of course, but driving local, often curvy, roads in the rain has been good so far. I also noticed the road noise was not as loud. But, this is only day one. Some of the roads here in Oregon are as bad as Texas; crushed rock on oil. Worst roads of all for noise. Les Schwab gave me a trade-in value on my Continental's so the bill was about $660 for the set of 4. Not cheap but the ride makes it worth it as of this writing.

I will get the coach done in a couple of weeks. I do hope the Toyo M154 295/75R22.5 clear the fender well. The Michelin 275/80R seem very close when I am parked.

Another update to follow in a couple of weeks.

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jerichorick, A friend found out the hard/expensive way to make sure the steer wheels are straight ahead before dumping the air. He had to replace both front fiberglass wheel well coverings.
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jerichorick, A friend found out the hard/expensive way to make sure the steer wheels are straight ahead before dumping the air. He had to replace both front fiberglass wheel well coverings.
That was a moment I bet. I always do that. I remember reading this in the owners manual of my first coach, when I didn't have a clue as to what I was doing. Have done it ever since. But, it is a great point to stress (no pun intended) as a reminder to all. This practice also takes adverse strain off the jacks when deploying them.

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Got nice reply from Toyo: Sum; Go to your local dealer and have them size your tire per your RV needs. I understand their position. Will do that. As it looks from the above posts, the 295/75 will work fine.

Just got off the phone with Less Schwab in Grants Pass, Or. The 4 rear tires in Toyo M154 H rated, 295/75R22.5 out the door price is $1950.48. ~488/tire. No balance because on rear. I chose this size because of the way this thread has been going. Thanks, all, for the good info.

Maybe in a couple of weeks I can do this.

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If you are looking at buying in OR for the sales tax break, try getting quotes closer to home for the same tires. You may be surprised.

I just put on a set of Toyo 295/75 to replace G670RV 275/80 and am pleased with the ride and the price. Went with the M177 instead of the M154 for the higher weight rating.
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