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Old 09-12-2013, 09:23 PM   #71
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I do not use the screw on type wire nuts or solder in any RV or home wiring.
The crimp stile with a push on cover is what I use so the will not come loose on the road.
This is what I use.



Wow you are even using the proper crimping too that is impressive.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:26 PM   #72
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gemini5362, your military soldering experience are much different than house wire soldering. You were using silver solder. Silver is a great conductor, better than copper. My references were to what the electricians have used. I don't know of many folks who have the bucks to spend on silver solder for home wire splicing. We did a lot of things in the service that just won't work in the civilian world.

Your opinion is your opinion. If you have the time and need to solder, go for it. I just know what I have experienced with such connections when done poorly. Under normal conditions wire nuts are safe and much easier to use. Safe only when used correctly in both cases. Ease of use I think we can agree on are wire nuts over solder.

I still think you will find the NEC book is against you on the solder and tape, though I could be wrong. I think of soldering house wiring in the same class as DC-3's for passenger air transport today. Great in their day, but their day is long gone.
Actually we used regular solder silver solder has a higher temp to melt it I believe.

Your methods are the most common I freely admit the way I like to do it is really overkill. It is my erstanding that the NEC probably does not cover that subject of soldering and or taping wire nuts. I believe that is because they think most people are not dumb enough to take that much time to make a connection if they do not have to.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:44 AM   #73
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I have used "Buchanan's" for years. They are for ground wires to be held securely together. I have tried the green wire nut but I don't like the way they work. Within a junction box there is just not enough room to safely us this product on hot wires. I have done a lot of wiring over the years and the Ideal drive on wire nut is my choice. The thread taper grabs very well, the skirt extends low and the use of a nut driver insures a good solid, well twisted wire connection.

If you need to win the argument than go for it. Your practices are very unconventional and the price you pay may be more than you planned on when one of your connections fails. I hope this never happens.

Good luck.
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electricity isn't magic...

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Electricity isn't magic.
Sir, I have to politely and respectfully disagree.

I have read the posts in this thread. All of them. And have learned a lot. Very helpful. But when you say electricity isn't magic, I just have to comment. I have a little experience and a few classes (compliments of my long ago federal govt job), and in all of my classes, whenever an instructor could not answer a question about electricity, the response was: "It's magic." Sometimes, they just said it was "FM."

So far, I've not been able to find anyone who could explain to my satisfaction, what electricity even is, much less how it actually works. I've heard arguments questioning whether it actually flows, or just vibrates. And is it electrons that flow, or do the holes flow? And more.

Being a simple person, I choose to accept the simpler choice.

It's "magic."

And a wonderful magic it is.

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If the coach originally came with only a 30 amp input then it must only have one a/c unit.

My 2003 Winnebago Brave was a 30amp & came from the factory with 2 air conditioners. Winnebago's electrical monitoring system would shed one of the units if needed to keep total usage under 30 amps.

Microwaves, analog TVs, hair dryers, electric heaters are amp hogs.




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My 2003 Winnebago Brave was a 30amp & came from the factory with 2 air conditioners. Winnebago's electrical monitoring system would shed one of the units if needed to keep total usage under 30 amps.

Microwaves, analog TVs, hair dryers, electric heaters are amp hogs.




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