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Old 02-17-2017, 07:13 AM   #1
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4 corner weights

I am looking for a facility in central Indiana that can do 4 corner weights on a Class A motorhome. I know most truck stops have scales, but my understanding is that they typically only do axle weights and not all 4 corners. Any suggestions?
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Well....Newmar will do it for you in Nappanee.
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Most truck scales are segmented into 3 sections to do axles. Some scales have wide margins so you have room to straddle one side of the coach on the scale segments at a time. Will take several passes to complete but if you weight each side first, then do a third pass to get each axle for comparison -- you will have a valid 4-corner weight. Usually, $20 for first pass, $5 or $10 for subsequent passes....
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Thanks for the replies. Any idea if I would need an appointment to do this at Newmar? I can also try the other method described by Old Scout at one of the local truck stops.


I have gotten the impression from various postings that truck stop scales are not really interested in dealing with RVs, let alone doing multiple passes. Is this true or urban legend?


I personally have never had any problem using truck stops. Just never used the scales. We frequent Pilot/Flying J's because around here they have RV dump stations.
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The scales like your money just as much as the truckers. I go in and tell them what I want to do and they have always been ok with it. Try to do it when there is a lesser chance of interfering with a trucker needing to weigh just out of courtesy.

FWIW, I had the WI State Patrol come to my home with their portable scales. We did two six position weighs. It took just a few minutes and there was no charge. He was happy to help me get it right.
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It takes two passes on the segmented scales. First pass is both wheels on the scale to get axle weights. Second pass with just one side on the scale, to get that side of each axle. Then subtract that from the total to get the other side. The only problem is that some scales are raised, so that you get tilted to straddle with the coach. Not always practical. The tilt throws the weight off by a small amount also, but you should not be running so close that the small difference matters.
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Thanks for all of the information/ideas. Hadn't thought about the DOT police. I have a friend on the ISP, may give him a call.
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Thanks for the replies. Any idea if I would need an appointment to do this at Newmar? I can also try the other method described by Old Scout at one of the local truck stops.


I have gotten the impression from various postings that truck stop scales are not really interested in dealing with RVs, let alone doing multiple passes. Is this true or urban legend?


I personally have never had any problem using truck stops. Just never used the scales. We frequent Pilot/Flying J's because around here they have RV dump stations.
I had Newmar weigh our rig with an appointment. I would call them to get the scoop.
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For axle weights there are CAT scales all over


https://catscale.com/cat-scale-locator/
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Most truck scales are segmented into 3 sections to do axles. Some scales have wide margins so you have room to straddle one side of the coach on the scale segments at a time. Will take several passes to complete but if you weight each side first, then do a third pass to get each axle for comparison -- you will have a valid 4-corner weight. Usually, $20 for first pass, $5 or $10 for subsequent passes....
FWIW, CAT scales do not allow you do to corner weights, and most are curbed or walled in a way you could not.

When weighing your motorhome, it must be completely on the scale and it is best if you position the steer axle (front wheels) of the motorhome on platform 1, and the drive axle or rear axle of the motorhome on platform 2. Platform 3 will likely be emptyPlease note: Our scales can give you axle weights and a total gross weight, however, they cannot weigh each corner of the vehicle. We cannot provide individual wheel weights and, to prevent damage to your vehicle as well as our scales, do not allow that type of weighing.

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Charles, you need to be creative to get the job done here. The scale people at the truck stops don't generally have a clue about what you're trying to accomplish, and have little incentive to try and figure it out. You need to know what you're trying to accomplish, and a rough idea of how the scales work. If you take just a minute to figure it out/get your head wrapped around the basics, it's pretty simple.

I've used the process Gary describes in post# 6 above on many occasions at many different scales, without issue. The exact cost escapes me, but it's less than 15.00 if I remember correctly, including the second pass (re-weigh). Takes less than 10 minutes. -Al
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I know--there are probably some liability issues involved with "endorsing" the use of the margins on the scales to get a 4-corner weight. However, I also removed the tag from my mattress --go figure......
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OakHill,

Just find your local CAT scale, most diesel selling fuel stops have them. They're all over the place. It costs me less than 15 bucks, and I do it every year. For worst case fill up your fuel, propane, and fresh water. Black and gray empty. Clothes and 'stuff' loaded as you normally travel.

Cat scales have three pads, use the last two since the first one typically has a post right next to the front pad. Drive on with your left tires just off the pad on the left, front tire on the 2nd pad, rear tires on the last pad. Get out and hit the button and tell they guy to take a reading. He'll ask you your truck number and company, just say #1 and "Dave" (or OakHill). He'll say okay, you drive around and to the same thing on the right side. Hit the button and tell them it's a reweigh. He'll weigh it and you pull off park, and go in to pay. You'll get two slips, first one is about 10 bucks, reweigh is like 2 or 3 bucks.

Really easy and super convenient. Not a big deal.

I've never seen a scale that had curbs on it (they've always been flat), but others have posted some have curbs so I guess it depends on the area of the country or specific scale location. Move on to another, if that is the case.
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FWIW, CAT scales do not allow you do to corner weights, and most are curbed or walled in a way you could not....
UM...I haven't seen a CAT scale yet that you couldn't drive onto the scale with on side on the side apron. I'm certain that there might be a few that are obstructed so YMMV.

When we do our 6-corner weighing (I have a method to do a tag axle coach with 2 weighings) it is kinda funny to watch the truckers observing us and scratching there heads. On a couple occasions we explained what we were doing and why. They actually appreciated the information and understood why.

All that being said, the OFFICIAL CAT Scale information says doing this is not approved...never been yelled at yet.
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