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08-24-2014, 08:31 PM
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There is not a toad brake requirement chart on the internet that is on a vendor of tow brake products web site that is true. Not ONE!
Are they a good idea? Absolutely.
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08-24-2014, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Xanso
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In many cases the Brakebuddy chart (and others) is incorrect because the weight limits they refer to are specifically for trailers and not necessarily for a "toad" or a "towed motor vehicle". Each state needs to be examined via it's website and current statute. Nearly all ultimately refer to a "braking performance standard for the combination of vehicles" such as this from Florida 316.261:
"BRAKES ON ALL WHEELS.—Every vehicle shall be equipped with brakes acting on all wheels except:
2. The combination of vehicles, consisting of the towing vehicle and its total towed load, is capable of complying with the performance requirements of s. 316.262."
However, aux braking is a good idea.
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08-24-2014, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akeyzoo
I always thought the limit wasn't on the length (up to 45), but that RV's longer then 40 needed more drivers license qualifications. I know that to be the case in CA.
Chris
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Ca does have a length limit at 40'. If 39'11" you can drive with a class c. If 40 ft you need the b non-com. Most states have a GVWR limit, usually at 26klbs.
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08-24-2014, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akeyzoo
I always thought the limit wasn't on the length (up to 45), but that RV's longer then 40 needed more drivers license qualifications. I know that to be the case in CA.
Chris
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In CA some roads do have a 40' limit. I got a map sent to me a few years ago.
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08-24-2014, 10:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stink
Ca does have a length limit at 40'. If 39'11" you can drive with a class c. If 40 ft you need the b non-com. Most states have a GVWR limit, usually at 26klbs.
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Not true stink, THe break is the 40' mark. 40' and under class c lic. Over 40' class a non-com. A class b you couldn't tow anything.
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08-24-2014, 10:08 PM
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS-POPS
Not true stink, THe break is the 40' mark. 40' and under class c lic. Over 40' class a non-com. A class b you couldn't tow anything.
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So glad I don't live in CA. Here all I need is reg operators lic class D
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08-24-2014, 10:18 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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In B.C. a normal class 5 license is fine for a MH. If you tow a RV trailer >10,141lbs you must have a heavy trailer endorsement. The big "favourite" with L/E around here is pulling over MH's with air brakes and guess what...the driver doesn't have an air endorsement. And, that is very expensive when they tow it away to prevent the continuation of an offence.
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08-25-2014, 06:48 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
In CA some roads do have a 40' limit. I got a map sent to me a few years ago.
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Rather than speculate about CA, here's the CA state web site that gives you in information that 45' coaches are legal - on most roads.
45' Bus & Motorhome Map
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08-25-2014, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by super_rep
Rather than speculate about CA, here's the CA state web site that gives you in information that 45' coaches are legal - on most roads.
45' Bus & Motorhome Map
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That pretty much takes all the fun out of guessing
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08-25-2014, 08:23 AM
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Senior Member
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Confused
Folks,
If I have my RV and TOAD registered in another state, am I safe driving in CA and following my home state licensing laws?
I understand I have to only drive on limited roads.
Thanks, JohnnyB
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08-25-2014, 10:30 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Hey Johnny;
There are a couple issues. If you are legally licensed to drive your MH in your state you will be legal in all other states and provinces due to reciprocal agreements.
Length and weight vary by jurisdiction and you are supposed to follow those rules in each locality. If not you can be ticketed.
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08-25-2014, 11:15 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanso
So glad I don't live in CA. Here all I need is reg operators lic class D
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There are quite a few states with tougher licensing requirements than CA. Here in NV I am required to have a non-commercial Class B license because my 40' coach exceeds 26,000 lbs. If I was a CA resident that would not be required and a regular driver's license would be sufficient.
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08-25-2014, 11:27 AM
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobGed
There are quite a few states with tougher licensing requirements than CA. Here in NV I am required to have a non-commercial Class B license because my 40' coach exceeds 26,000 lbs. If I was a CA resident that would not be required and a regular driver's license would be sufficient.
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Yea there's about 11 states that require it.
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08-25-2014, 11:28 AM
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Junior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Gordon
A little off subject how long is your stacker trailer? How does the Tour pull it? I would be 42' with a 36" stacker trailer.
Htsht89
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