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Old 05-17-2017, 11:14 AM   #1
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Adding seat belts to U shaped dinette

We have a 2017 Fleetwood Pace Arrow LXE 38K with a U shaped dinette. Only one seat belt there along the drivers side wall.
We want to add two more seat belts at the dinette, (facing front and rear). General RV says they can order them but can't legally install them.
Has anyone tried to do this themselves or know of someone that can do it? It a brand new motorhome and I don't want the dinette destroyed! Thanks.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:18 AM   #2
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I would think that you could order the same thing that you already have and in some way fasten it to the floor. Ours comes with three belted positions in a U-shaped dinette and there's nothing scientific about the installation other than they're very large bolts into receiver on the floor.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:43 AM   #3
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You will probably have to install them yourself. In the age of litigation nobody wants to risk losing their business over a lawsuit regarding improper installation.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:00 PM   #4
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In order to be effective seat belts have withstand lot of force. I don't remember the exact number but I think it is at least 3,000 pounds.
In order to meet the requirement Winnebago connects the driver and passenger belts to something that is connected to the chassis. The point that the shoulder belt connects to is a rectangular steel tube.
I think you will need to do a lot more than just bolting them to the floor.
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I found a requirement for the anchor point force - 22 kN or right at 5000 pounds.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:04 PM   #5
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Just order the seat belts from whomever and screw them to the floor. I just pulled mine out and relocated them, took about 5 minutes to unscrew and 5 more to reinstall them. Just remember you only have 3/4" of plywood subfloor, for me 1-1/4" screws worked best over my carpet, you might be able to use 1-1/2" screws, but you don't want to go through your slide and cause friction below it. I used 1/4 diameter Lag Bolts, but you can use whatever. In the case of an accident, I worry more about all the contents of my MH hitting us than the seat belt pulling out of the subfloor
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We've run into the same issue. Noone wants the liability if something goes wrong. I've read links about how much force, etc. And there is a bunch of federal specifications for different vehicle types. I'm not sure I would simply lag them to a plywood floor, but that said, we decided that a seatbelt that may or may not hold has to be better than people flying around completely unrestrained. (Some may disagree and that's fine, just MHO) our coach has several carriage bolts that are connected to a steel bar under the floor of the slide and we are going to use those attachment points.

There are several companies around that build custom made seatbelts. Www.seatbeltplanet.com and www.seatbeltplus.com are 2 that I have looked at and seem reasonable. Ordering this week.
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Just order the seat belts from whomever and screw them to the floor. I just pulled mine out and relocated them, took about 5 minutes to unscrew and 5 more to reinstall them. Just remember you only have 3/4" of plywood subfloor, for me 1-1/4" screws worked best over my carpet, you might be able to use 1-1/2" screws, but you don't want to go through your slide and cause friction below it. I used 1/4 diameter Lag Bolts, but you can use whatever. In the case of an accident, I worry more about all the contents of my MH hitting us than the seat belt pulling out of the subfloor
It's scary, but true. The whole house is probably going to come apart in a real wreck. The seat belts might help in a minor accident like rear ending someone.
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I added seat-belts to my dinette, or banquette as my wife calls it. It is on a slide and no where to mount the belts to other than in to the plywood floor so I put angle strap the full length and bolted the angle to the steel slide frame and mounted the seat-belts to the angle. I used steel cable to extend the belts up to the seats and mine were not long enough. I think the belts will be there when the house collapses. My seat belt on my couch are just bolted to the couch.
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