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Old 09-22-2013, 11:24 AM   #57
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I am kind of curious how long does it take to pull the driver out of the way, release the cruise control, apply the parking brake. does the motor home automatically drive straight while you are doing this. What if there is a curve ahead does the motorhome automatically turn threw the curve until you can get all of the above done. I believe that in actuality if you become instantly incapacitated you are going to wreck. Also I do not want my spouse out of the seat belted chair she is in trying to do all of this stuff when we hit something.
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:06 PM   #58
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I am kind of curious how long does it take to pull the driver out of the way, release the cruise control, apply the parking brake. does the motor home automatically drive straight while you are doing this. What if there is a curve ahead does the motorhome automatically turn threw the curve until you can get all of the above done. I believe that in actuality if you become instantly incapacitated you are going to wreck. Also I do not want my spouse out of the seat belted chair she is in trying to do all of this stuff when we hit something.
Come on you guys! Really? You guys are automatically assuming everything will be okay if nobody does nothing until the impact occurs.

I think the point here, is IF your copilot recognized an issue AND if it was safe to do so, then react knowing what to do IF conditions would be ideal for a "while in motion" rescue.
Talking about it would certainly give another option to rely on, other than simply being strapped in and watching as you coasted into the path of an oncoming vehicle or over a cliff!

Sometimes the responses here just kill me.

Please have an open mind. It's the added opinions of others on this forum that help us not to be so narrow minded and think a little outside the box. What you choose to do with it is up to you.
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This has got to be the greatest thread ever. 50 posts about how to push on a brake pedal that has now morphed into how to remove a dead man from behind the steering wheel while careening down the mountain of doom. Just picture the little 98 lb woman dragging her 250 lb hubby from behind the behind the wheel, adjusting her seating position and bringing this rolling wreck to a safe and complete stop. They should have included this in the movie RV !!!
It is a serious subject but this is WAY over the top
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This has got to be the greatest thread ever. 50 posts about how to push on a brake pedal that has now morphed into how to remove a dead man from behind the steering wheel while careening down the mountain of doom. Just picture the little 98 lb woman dragging her 250 lb hubby from behind the behind the wheel, adjusting her seating position and bringing this rolling wreck to a safe and complete stop. They should have included this in the movie RV !!!
It is a serious subject but this is WAY over the top
:-) Big Grin!!!
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:-) Big Grin!!!
When I drag dog outta his drivers seat and pull us over safely we'll wave as you and Chuck careen on by. Me with eyes as big as saucers - dog with his purple and blue face from choking on a hot wing and suffering from a brutal heimlich maneuver. Kidding of course - but it's possuable. Perhaps not probable - but like any discussion of brakes - not really laughing matter. Now Fred Flintstone using his feet to stop - that's funny.

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That may be what How Stuff Works says, but it's flat WRONG for current trucks and RVs (I can't speak to rail cars).
Yep, I went to that page last week, but decided against posting it because it is WRONG for the later trucks and RV's but might still apply to trains.
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So what part of that quote from the manual link that was posted is not understandable.

For the service brakes, push on pedal, compressed air is directed to the brake diaphragms and the brake is applied. Release the pedal and air is released and the spring retracts the brake.

For the parking (emergency) brake, pull the parking (emergency) brake device and air is released completely from the spring parking brake system and the brakes are applied.

Two different sets of air lines. Two systems. Two different applications.

What am I missing?
Nothing, other than air is not compressed when you press on the brake treddle, it's already there and released to apply the service brakes. I did rewrite the service brake section though.
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Sometimes the responses here just kill me.
Some will, if you follow them!
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As stated, I'm done! My glass is half full.
Well, I'm going to go pour one glass full and empty it all the way!
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This has got to be the greatest thread ever. 50 posts about how to push on a brake pedal that has now morphed into how to remove a dead man from behind the steering wheel while careening down the mountain of doom. Just picture the little 98 lb woman dragging her 250 lb hubby from behind the behind the wheel, adjusting her seating position and bringing this rolling wreck to a safe and complete stop. They should have included this in the movie RV !!!
It is a serious subject but this is WAY over the top
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I was thinking the same thing. If some guy passes out on the steering wheel forget about all the rest. How do they say it, "Put you head between your knees..."
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Well, I'm going to go pour one glass full and empty it all the way!
Won't work! Once you empty the glass, it's still full.....full of air.
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excellent post by cooper hawk!

As an old bold fighter pilot, I can appreciate his discussion about energy management. He is right on!

These same principles apply to fuel management as well.

still, you need to understand the system. It is not rocket science, and there are tutorials on the Internet, that will get you the info you need to know. Don't leave home without it.
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I was thinking the same thing. If some guy passes out on the steering wheel forget about all the rest. How do they say it, "Put you head between your knees..."
After 35 years on the road one thing I do know is that no matter what you are driving if you are distracted for only a few seconds you can be veering off course.
Pulling that yellow knob is equivalent to a 60psi brake application. That my friends is a panic brake application. Anyone not seated and strapped in will be going for a fast trip to the front.

The sad reality is that if the driver passes out behind the wheel,by time the passenger realizes what is happening you could be going into oncoming traffic or the ditch.
If you are prone to passing out at the wheel you shouldn't be driving anything.
This thread makes two good points. People should have air brake endorsements and maybe drivers medicals.
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Nothing, other than air is not compressed when you press on the brake treddle, it's already there and released to apply the service brakes. I did rewrite the service brake section though.
Could you explain that?
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