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01-22-2015, 02:09 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,387
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Thanks for all the responses. The mechanics mirror and flashlight sounds like a good idea but the borescope sound like a useful toy to have around also, and at $17, that is pretty cheap.
The tires look ok to me, no real detectable cracking, but I will get a professional evaluation.
Camping World is about an hour away, so not real convenient to just stop by. I know I can call them but... I like to be able to see them face to face when they roll their eyes at me, shake their head and get a smirky smile. I haven't had a bad experience with them, but it's just not a place I enjoy going and they are the closest full RV service center by far.
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2006 Allegro Bay 37DB
2012 Toyota Yaris
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01-22-2015, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ft wayne Indiana
Posts: 479
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I would call a local tire co. and ask if they can do it, imagine they will be cheaper. If you ever have any problems they are right there close.
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01-22-2015, 03:15 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 3,047
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We had a set of duals, which were Michelins, blow out on us. One tire blew and took the other. At the time they were about 9 years old. My rule is I replace them every six or seven years no matter how good they look.
I just replaced the Michelins on our present coach and the tire service bought the old tires from me. They use them on off road equipment. Didn't get a lot, but anything is better than nothing.
A friend of mine had two blow out like that and the explosion tore out the bathroom floor. Did a lot of damage.
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US Army Aviation, MACV Vietnam 65-66
2012 Journey 36M, Cummings 360hp
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01-22-2015, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,061
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Almost funny, but not really: Tire date
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Originally Posted by Mr_D
What do you call "excessive"? If they weren't 2/32" deep then they were still OK to run. After 8 years mine had some cracking but it was 1/32" deep.
From Michelin:
"If the cracks are less than 1/32" deep the tire is fine to run. Between 1/32" and 2/32" the tire is suspect and should be examined by your Michelin dealer. If the cracks are any deeper than 2/32" (1/16") the tire should be replaced immediately"
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Agree.
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01-22-2015, 09:23 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,061
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stuhly
Not extreme if they are like the three year old michelins I had to replace due to excessive sidewall cracking.
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Uh oh, the "Michelen Basher" strikes again! Lol.
Cheers!
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01-22-2015, 09:40 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deandec
Only way to tell is an inspection of the inside of the tire and outside of the tire by a qualified tech.
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Tried that at Les Schwabe, tech said, "yep, they're cracked" and left it at that. So much for "qualified"! Bought new tires from Superior Tires after that!
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RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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01-22-2015, 09:45 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooperhawk
I just replaced the Michelins on our present coach and the tire service bought the old tires from me. They use them on off road equipment. Didn't get a lot, but anything is better than nothing.
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When Superior tire changed mine I got the tire mounting for the old tires/wheels as I was putting on Alcoa wheels that I got at a wrecking yard. They told me the tires were not usable due to the age (8+ years) but I'm betting they resold them for of road use.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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01-22-2015, 09:48 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: MotherLoad foothills approx.60 m.s east of Sacramento
Posts: 1,281
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Camping world was obligated by law to correct all "known" safety issues before completing the sale and delivery. They can say that they didn't know but they should have found out. That's why they call it a safety inspection.They left themselves open for a serious law suit if you wreck due to a blown tire that they should have inspected. If the code dates were not visible, they should have pulled the wheels. I would revisit the sales office and ask if they want to take the risk. I would also ask them for the ph# of the corporate office if they put you on the shine... Squeeeky wheel sort of thing
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01-23-2015, 05:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Milford,CT.
Posts: 2,237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha99
Uh oh, the "Michelen Basher" strikes again! Lol.
Cheers!
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Their are two side to everything the cheerleaders and the bashers. Lol
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01-23-2015, 07:30 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Home on the hill in Georgia
Posts: 2,742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adamfolger
Camping world was obligated by law to correct all "known" safety issues before completing the sale and delivery. They can say that they didn't know but they should have found out. That's why they call it a safety inspection.They left themselves open for a serious law suit if you wreck due to a blown tire that they should have inspected. If the code dates were not visible, they should have pulled the wheels. I would revisit the sales office and ask if they want to take the risk. I would also ask them for the ph# of the corporate office if they put you on the shine... Squeeeky wheel sort of thing
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Anyone that has bought a used unit from Camping World has signed an "AS IS" paper along with all the other paper work.
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01-23-2015, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 379
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I would have them inspected. If they are over 6-7 yrs old I would replace. I replace mine @ 5-6 yrs regardless. A blow out can cost $$$$$ to wheel well damage. I have personally seen the damage it can cause. The side walls could be damaged by previous owner from hitting curbs, etc.
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01-23-2015, 08:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,777
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stuhly
Not extreme if they are like the three year old michelins I had to replace due to excessive sidewall cracking.
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stuhly
I feel your pain.
All 6 of my "DOT date code 1611 Michelin tires" were replaced by Michelin Customer Care at 3 1/2 years old because of excessive sidewall cracking.
Speaking of " almost funny, but not really"...the 6 replacement tires Michelin provided were all made within 2 weeks of the 6 tires that cracked...(DOT dates: 2 - 1511, 2 - 1611, and 2 - 1811).
Which means I am currently driving on 6 "brand new" 3 1/2 year old tires.
Mel, (another "Michelin Basher")
'96 safari
Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha99
Uh oh, the "Michelin Basher" strikes again! Lol.
Cheers!
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01-23-2015, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: B.C.
Posts: 4,638
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I would agree with the others in having one of the outer's pulled and check the date codes. Also check for condition. If the fronts needed replaced then I would think the back ones would be there as well.
It sounds like Camping World is trying to dodge one here and if so need to be called on it.
Good luck.
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