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10-12-2016, 09:10 PM
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Alternative to Trimark 60-1650 Door Locks?
We've had it.
In October 2015 the Trimark door lock malfunctioned and we were locked out on a chilly night in Buelton, CA. Had it replaced on October 15th in San Diego at South Coast RV. Trimark 60-1650 the "improved version" that already had a recall notice for a potential manufacturing problem. MIne was inspected and pronounced OK.
Last week in Massachusetts that new lock malfunctioned. The latch stopped retracting sometimes, and the door could not be opened. I blocked the opening on the strike plate with a piece of sheet steel and we continued on using the deadbolt to hold the door shut.
I asked Trimark about a warranty replacement. They said I'd have to ask Southcoast RV in San Diego to give me another one, since I did not buy the replacement lock directly from Trimark. The problem is, we live in Minneapolis.
Has anyone installed an alternative lock from another manufacturer?
Trimark BADLY needs some competition to shape them up.
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10-12-2016, 09:46 PM
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Location: Woodstock GA
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Was there something physically broke in the locks or did they malfunction? Because to me its sounds like the need to be properly lubricated.... both tumbler and mechanism.
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10-12-2016, 09:53 PM
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In the first one the latch physically broke.
In the replacement the inside handle would stick and not pull the latch, even after being sprayed inside with graphite lock lubricant.
The replacement lock came with a sticker warning to immediately take the RV in for service to the lock if it malfunctioned in any way.
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10-12-2016, 10:00 PM
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Location: Woodstock GA
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Ok makes more sense. The replacement lock was "over tightened" during install. The body of a lock is a somewhat floating item. It must be secure to make sure it works right and does not move when you use it but not so tight that it compresses the lock frame. Over tightening the mounting screws will interfere with the moving parts flowing as they should.... regardless of how much lube you apply.
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10-13-2016, 04:21 AM
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Thanks for the idea. But why would a lock work for a year and then become too tightly attached? I could see it becoming looser. But not tight.
I will see of loosening the mount makes the handle stop "catching" and freezing.
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10-14-2016, 07:45 PM
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I had 2 locks break in one year. The latch bolt snapped on both locks. I found the striker plate bolt retainer hole was open all the way to the frame of the MH. When you close the door the bolt slams closed and the nylon stop/guide in the lock fatigues over time and breaks allowing the bolt to hit metal to metal inside the lock until it snaps. I took a wood screw and ran it inside the striker plate into the door frame so when the bolt goes into the plate when closing the door it hits the wood screw allowing the bolt to latch but not letting it slam into the internal nylon stop/guide. I did this about 8 months ago so I don't know if will work long term but the bolt is not hitting the internal nylon stop/guide causing it to break.
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10-14-2016, 08:04 PM
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Wow, that is very perceptive. I wonder if that is why our first latch broke. I noticed the striker bolt retaining hole is open about an inch deep into our door frame. But the only thing to screw a wood screw into for us would be the styrofoam internal insulation between the panels in the wall.
I guess I'm going to have to go out there and take the lock out and apart and see how it all works. Hopefully I can get it back in there again.
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10-14-2016, 08:51 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal
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We changed our time-bomb Trimark 16-650 for a Bauer EM...wonderful upgrade. Power deadbolt w/ manual key alternative...no sales-lot lock on the strike bolt to accidentally lock you out...and, single key (not so common, like Trimark).
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10-14-2016, 09:05 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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We had the bauers with remote on our 2013 redwood and had nothing but trouble with them...
nice people and always responded, but when minutes count, they are days away
Now they might have improved as we moved on and got rid of that 5'er
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10-15-2016, 12:20 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: SoCal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnBoyToo
We had the bauers with remote on our 2013 redwood and had nothing but trouble with them...
nice people and always responded, but when minutes count, they are days away
Now they might have improved as we moved on and got rid of that 5'er
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Bauer has no product with a remote...and none since I started looking to replace the 16-650 in 2013.
I believe Redwood RV used 3 type door locks:
-Bauer,
-Southco (hardwired and some with remotes) - http://www.southco.com/en-us/product....html?hid=7336
-and RV LOCK (with remote) - Like... https://www.rvlock.com/
For the OP, Bauer and RV LOCK are direct replacements for the Trimark.
We have no experience with RVLock, but price and quality feedback are not as good as Bauer...which is why we picked Bauer.
If Bauer has a lock with remote, would like to see it.
Safe travels
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WE LOVE OUR OUTLAW RV
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10-15-2016, 03:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnesota51
Wow, that is very perceptive. I wonder if that is why our first latch broke. I noticed the striker bolt retaining hole is open about an inch deep into our door frame. But the only thing to screw a wood screw into for us would be the styrofoam internal insulation between the panels in the wall.
I guess I'm going to have to go out there and take the lock out and apart and see how it all works. Hopefully I can get it back in there again.
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If you have only foam to attach to, maybe, cut a shim out of aluminum, plastic, or wood. Cut to the size of the strike opening. Small amount of glue or silicone sealant to retain it in the opening.
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10-15-2016, 04:09 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Punta Gorda FL.
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Since they (RV door locks) are all time bombs, and Fleetwood dropped driver doors (stupid move), I leave a window unlocked. Someone wants in they will bust something anyway.
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