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Old 08-23-2015, 10:49 AM   #1
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Another noob - Barth Monarch?

Hello to the group.

I'm a total noob to RVs but my wife and I are convinced we want one and, after much research, I'm convinced we need a mid-size diesel pusher. We'll travel with two mid-size dogs and I know we'll want to tow either a car/suv or a trailer with motorcycles. We're recently retired and hope to take 3-4 significant trips per year and a few weekends at the lake.

I've found a 95 Barth Monarch with 71k miles that appears very well taken care of. Has Spartan chassis, Cummins 8.3 mechanical diesel, Allison MD-3060 six speed transmission and recent service. Price is toward the top of my range but it seems that Barths were very well made. I'm willing to pay for value but I'm unable to find a lot of reviews of Barths, probably because they made small numbers. Most of what I've found is from Barthmobile.com and is overwhelmingly positive. Can it be that Barths have no failings?

I guess the chassis/engine/transmission can be serviced almost anywhere but should I be concerned about the rest of the componentry?

I've looked at all the checklists on this site and others and browsed many, many forums for info so I think I have the general stuff covered. Any advice, info, links, or anecdotes specific to the Barth would be greatly appreciated.

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Before you buy have it inspected by a qualified inspector. Have oil and transmission fluids tested by a lab such as Blackstone labs. Try to get the service records if possible.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:06 AM   #3
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Check the dates on the tires. Google how to find and read them. If they are over 7 years old or the sidewalks are cracked due to sun exposure then figure in the cost to replace them.
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Once you have done all of that and purchased it, have fun and maybe we will see you on the road!
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:33 PM   #5
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And, a welcome to the board too!!! Barth made a good coach, suggest you Google for a Barth Owner's Group and ask questions to them too.

I think you nailed it on engine and chassis being a non problem as far as maintenance, and, those were simpler days as far as smog and electronic components on engines.

Agree with having a full PDI completed on the coach, as it will give you a good baseline on what maybe ahead of you on catch up maintenance, if any.

I'll also caution you to check for rubber fuel lines, to say the generator and possibly the engine too, as ULSD does not play well with the older materials of these rubber fuel lines. Preventative replacement with say a Gates Barricade, or other Napa, ULSD compliant fuel line, is recommended.

Understand that you are getting into a coach that is no longer supported by a factory, and even though of good build quality, will be an ongoing opportunity for maintenance and repair projects. But, all coaches are that way...

If it has been properly maintained, and has documentation to back this, and you like the coach - go for it, and yes - go have some fun!
Best of luck to you,
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Here it is Welcome to Barthmobile.com - Dedicated to the Barth Custom Coach

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And, a welcome to the board too!!! Barth made a good coach, suggest you Google for a Barth Owner's Group and ask questions to them too...
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How skilled are you at making home repairs? Can you handle plumbing, electrical, general maintenance? How about automotive repair? If you get a classic coach like this, it is going to be an ongoing project and either you will be paying someone to do the repairs or you will be doing them yourselves.

You might want to think this through a bit more and also look for coaches that are a bit newer.
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Good luck with your purchase ....
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