Another XRV Cracking story

[alpha99]

Originally Posted by Rkh

Don't like it. But I don't think it's a problem at this point. XRV from 08/2010.
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Rod

RKH,

You need to call the Michelin # above before the 5 year mark next month! Mine reach the 5 year mark in October, had them checked today and Michelin is going to pay 75% of the cost on the fronts and 70% on the rears. Don't wait till after August or you may not get anything.

From what I can see, the major cause of cracking is sun exposure and lack of driving them enough.

Since I just covered storage I am planning on sticking with Michelin's, love the ride and I've always had good luck with them other than this cracking issue which I believe is due mostly to sun exposure.

Cheers!

[NHRA225]

I drove the wheels off on my XRVs and covered at home, I think it's something in manufacturing !
If you can up the size - Do It !


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[Chuck 1935]

10,000 miles per year and kept inside when at home, and they still cracked !
Put Yokohamas on and love them.

[alpha99]

Chuck, what size Yokohamas?

I need 255/80/22.5

There are no XRV's available in the country now in that size.

Dealer was trying to put me into BF Goodrich, but a quick web search revealed class action suits and tons of blowouts on them, so not going that route.

I am in no hurry, mine will last for a while, so I may wait on the XRV's, couldn't find Yokohamas in my size and weight rating.

Thanks.

[CJ7ole]

I imagine tire design is a complex issue, but you would think that by now they would have identified the problem and fixed it. Likely a rubber compound design issue not prevalent on most other Michelins?

[alpha99]

Originally Posted by mel s

Same here!

While researching tires and considering Michelin vs. Goodyears and others I came across THIS (Goodyear G670 owners beware):

"....PRODUCT LIABILITY - Written by Beasley Allen on Thursday, April 2, 2015 13:21 - 0 Comments

Another Goodyear RV Tire Is Experiencing Problems
Tags: G159 RV Tire, Goodyear Tire, lawsuit, lawyer, Personal Injury
We have written on numerous occasions about the Goodyear G159 RV tire and the wrecks, injuries and deaths it has caused. Goodyear originally designed the G159 RV tire for metro pickup and delivery trucks, such as those used by UPS – vehicles that are used in urban settings and not for extended trips at highway speeds for several hours. The design features that made the G159 RV tire appropriate for delivery trucks made it dangerous and prone to fail when used on large RVs driven at highway speeds. The tire’s thick tread and wide belt package caused the tire to run too hot and fail.

We learned that Goodyear sold the G159 as an RV tire until it could replace it with a tire that it designed for RVs, the G670. Unfortunately, the G670 is starting to experience failures and cause injuries and deaths like its predecessor.

The G670 is sold in two sizes. The larger tire, the 295/80, is made by Goodyear at its Dunlop plant in Buffalo, N.Y. The other size, the 275/70 is made at a traditional Goodyear plant. Unfortunately, the 670 RV made at the Dunlop plant is beginning to gain notoriety for failing and causing injuries and deaths. In the last few years, more than 15 lawsuits have been filed against Goodyear involving the Dunlop-made 670.

Remarkably, the Dunlop-made 670 is designed more like the G159 than the 670, which Goodyear boasts as its RV tire. The Dunlop tire tread depth is thicker, its top belt is wider and its inner liner is thinner, less than half of the 670 made at the Goodyear plant. Further, as we have learned in other tire cases, the Dunlop plant is notorious for bad manufacturing processes.

Based on what we are seeing, it is becoming apparent that Goodyear did not learn anything from its experiences with the G159. RV owners need to take caution when causing the Dunlop made Goodyear G670...."

[CJ7ole]

Originally Posted by alpha99

While researching tires and considering Michelin vs. Goodyears and others I came across THIS (Goodyear G670 owners beware):

"....PRODUCT LIABILITY - Written by Beasley Allen on Thursday, April 2, 2015 13:21 - 0 Comments

Another Goodyear RV Tire Is Experiencing Problems
Tags: G159 RV Tire, Goodyear Tire, lawsuit, lawyer, Personal Injury
We have written on numerous occasions about the Goodyear G159 RV tire and the wrecks, injuries and deaths it has caused. Goodyear originally designed the G159 RV tire for metro pickup and delivery trucks, such as those used by UPS – vehicles that are used in urban settings and not for extended trips at highway speeds for several hours. The design features that made the G159 RV tire appropriate for delivery trucks made it dangerous and prone to fail when used on large RVs driven at highway speeds. The tire’s thick tread and wide belt package caused the tire to run too hot and fail.

We learned that Goodyear sold the G159 as an RV tire until it could replace it with a tire that it designed for RVs, the G670. Unfortunately, the G670 is starting to experience failures and cause injuries and deaths like its predecessor.

The G670 is sold in two sizes. The larger tire, the 295/80, is made by Goodyear at its Dunlop plant in Buffalo, N.Y. The other size, the 275/70 is made at a traditional Goodyear plant. Unfortunately, the 670 RV made at the Dunlop plant is beginning to gain notoriety for failing and causing injuries and deaths. In the last few years, more than 15 lawsuits have been filed against Goodyear involving the Dunlop-made 670.

Remarkably, the Dunlop-made 670 is designed more like the G159 than the 670, which Goodyear boasts as its RV tire. The Dunlop tire tread depth is thicker, its top belt is wider and its inner liner is thinner, less than half of the 670 made at the Goodyear plant. Further, as we have learned in other tire cases, the Dunlop plant is notorious for bad manufacturing processes.

Based on what we are seeing, it is becoming apparent that Goodyear did not learn anything from its experiences with the G159. RV owners need to take caution when causing the Dunlop made Goodyear G670...."

My RV is a 2002, 13 years old now and came with 19.5" G670's. Currently Goodyear makes 3 tires in the 19.5" diameter size and 8 tires in the 22.5" diameter size. Goodyear RV Tires – Tire Selector So if the author can't get even basic info correct ("The G670 is sold in two sizes.") how are we supposed to believe the rest of the article?

[Mr_D]

Originally Posted by alpha99

From what I can see, the major cause of cracking is sun exposure and lack of driving them enough.

Agreed. A couple of ours are dated late '07 and still look great. But, it's been stored indoors and run 45,000 miles since '09. Trying to save money to replace them but the DW's liver cancer treatments might put a dent in that!

[alpha99]

Originally Posted by Triker56

On Michelin cracks read page 9 on this PDF

Their is a reason Michelin has 0 days warranty on cracks.
On the other hand Good Year has a 7 year warranty on cracks.

If Michelin offered to help with the cracked tires.
Go right away out, and buy a Power Ball lottery ticket

Not true that Michelin has "0 days warranty on cracks".

They are paying 75% and 70% (steers and rears) for replacement of my just under 5 year old Michelin XRV's.

They have consistently backed up their product.

Cheers!

[sgtjoe]

Yep, Alpha99 is correct. They covered one of my 4 year old XRV at 75% for cracks.

[rodz]

Is the XRV a completely different tire than the XZE? I don't hear any complaints of cracking on it.

[mel s]

Originally Posted by rodz

Is the XRV a completely different tire than the XZE? I don't hear any complaints of cracking on it.

rodz
By "it" do you mean you don't hear any complaints about cracking of the Michelin XRV tires?.. OR the Michelin XZE tires?
Wondering
Mel
96 Safari

[rodz]

Originally Posted by mel s

rodz
By "it" do you mean you don't hear any complaints about cracking of the Michelin XRV tires?.. OR the Michelin XZE tires?
Wondering
Mel
96 Safari

Lots of complaints on XRV. I had to replace mine from bad cracking
I replaced them with XZE.

[mel s]

Originally Posted by rodz

Lots of complaints on XRV. I had to replace mine from bad cracking
I replaced them with XZE.

rodz
Are they 3 years old yet?
My 6 XZEs, (new in Aug of 2011), were replaced by Michelin Customer Care in Nov of 2014 because all 6 had cracked sidewalls.
Mel
'96 Safari