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Old 08-16-2015, 06:42 AM   #1
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Please tell me what is involved in changing out a B&W rear camera to a COLOR camera. Will both the camera and the dash mounted pop up video viewer unit of our 2004 Intruder have to be replaced? If so, an idea of cost? Our B&W screen is often difficult to see.

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Old 08-16-2015, 07:27 AM   #2
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Your monitor and the camera will have to be replaced to get color. The wiring might also have to be changed depending on the system. If you stay with the same brand of system you currently have you can probably use the existing wire.

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Old 08-16-2015, 07:30 AM   #3
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About 99.999% of the time, the "cable" that links the two together, will have to be replaced due to the fact that, the connections/wiring/etc. are all matched from Camera to Monitor. An average 7" color camera and monitor will run you close to $500.00. There are more expensive and, cheaper sets to choose from but, that price is about average, for a good setup.

Running a new cable can be the most difficult task of replacing the system. RV builders should have put a chase tunnel for situations like this but, as of yet, I know of no one who's replaced a camera/monitor setup, tell he/she had one.

Our coach, an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT has the original Sony color system in it. Every once in a while on a trip, it goes on the fritz and I loose the picture. Then, out of the "blue" so-to-speak, the picture returns, good as new.

We were just at Camping World near Flagstaff AZ and, there was a 7" Monitor and color camera there for, I think, around $387.00 or so. I'd have to re-check that to be sure. It looked like a good system but, I didn't get too far into the specs on it. Might be worth looking into.
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Some months ago, I bought complete color system from e-bay for under $100.00. It works well, and I am very happy with it.
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I have just done the same thing on My Meridian. I got a kit from Tim at RVcams.com, which comes with three cameras, and a new LCD color monitor. The kit also includes a mounting bracket to fit the new screen into the dash, and conversion cables, so that I could use the existing cables.
only down side really was the cost at ~$1000, however it has made a world of difference when backing up.
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I did switch my 3 camera B&W system to color. Used all the existing cables to the cameras. Cables to the monitor were different so they had to be spliced behind the dash. No big deal. Stayed with the same brand and the rear camera tilt even worked, just as before. Wasn't cheap though. Over 1,000.00 just for parts.
So much nicer than the B&W system. My system was a Voyager.
Side cameras were smaller than the B&W so new holes had to be drilled and required a little painting to match as my coach was not painted under the cameras.

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Thanks to all. Just wanted to know if the process was more than simply buying a new color camera and maybe a new monitor. But, re-cabling changes things. There several other less costly upgrades that are higher on my priority list, than color CCTV. Although, it would be a must, should I ever replace this MH.
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I did switch my 3 camera B&W system to color. Used all the existing cables to the cameras. Cables to the monitor were different so they had to be spliced behind the dash. No big deal.
This is exactly right With proper splicing you can use the existing cabling. Did the same in my coach, except that I dislike the side cameras, so I just went to a color rearview camera and a 9" monitor. Cost less than $250.
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Check angle of view

I also upgraded the B&W backup camera and monitor in my 2007 Coachmen Mirada to a color system. It seems that the RV industry were very slow to adopt flat screen displays, as both my backup monitor and front TV were the older, very heavy CRT-type units. I was able to adapt the existing camera cable. There were 4 color-coded wires inside for ground, video, audio and +12 volts. I think this was the standard Voyager wiring. I bought the camera and a 7" monitor on eBay for around $100 total.

Only one regret - I now have a much smaller angle of view. The old camera had a fisheye lens, and the new one a wide angle lens, but with a much narrower view. There was no way to tell the difference, even looking at the side-by-side. The color is a great improvement, and I can now see more clearly where my rear bumper and nearby objects are, but I can't see traffic behind me in multiple lanes as I could before. I don't think there is any standard for the powers of lenses built into these cameras, and don't recall any mention of it in the ads. Keep in mind that there are many variations on "wide angle". Currently I am looking into buying an inexpensive fisheye lens that I can mount over the glass on my backup camera. I have tried one made for iPhones, but the aperture is too small, and I get a perfectly focussed circular image that fills about half of my monitor screen!

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Old 08-17-2015, 08:12 PM   #12
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I have a 99 Allegro Bus 35'. I bought a 9" screen and a color camera on Amazon for $88 including the 2 wifi relays (one at camera and one at monitor). I had two issues:
- no power at the camera and too complicated to run a powered line to the ignition so I used the old camera coax for + and - and connected it to the same + and - which feed in the back of the screen. It works great and power both the camera and wifi when ignition is on.
- screen turns black when in reverse but works when in D or N: on the old monitor, the Allegro has 2 green wires, 1 blue wire and +/- . I had connected the blue to + and ignored the green ones. Well when I did not have image in R, I tried connecting the green but it killed the engine!!! Anyway, the solution was to disconnect the blue and connect instead the 2 greens to the +. The monitor is on all the time with ignition on (D,N & R) but as I have a remote I can also shut it off.
Finally make sure that the wifi sending/receiving unit is high enough to avoid interferences (I get a little bit when my low air buzzer is active)
As you can see there are a lot of option and price differences.
Hope this help.

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