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Old 11-27-2011, 01:57 PM   #1
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About 6 months ago we got new tires installed at Camping World. I was talked into having a balancing powder put in the tires which would supposedly eliminate the need to ever balance the tires again. I informed them that I had a TPMS and was concerned that the powder would clog the system. I was told that a screen on the valve stem would prevent this from happening. I haven't had a problem with the TPMS but so far 3 of the tires have developed leaks at the stem which apparently is being caused by the powder. Two tires cleaned out at different large commercial tire dealers and one at the Ford dealer. All said the same thing: valve clogged with a powder. I thought all were fixed but another one is leaking at the stem again. Live and learn.

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Old 11-27-2011, 02:04 PM   #2
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RJ,

Sorry to hear about your problems but thanks for the advice about not using balancing powder.

I've never been a fan of putting anything in a tire aside from air unless it is a tire on a piece of construction equipment that operates at low speed.

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Old 11-27-2011, 02:06 PM   #3
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... I was told that a screen on the valve stem would prevent this from happening.
Sorry to hear about that. If you have that in writing, you have a case with CW to remedy the situation. If not, then it's probably like you stated: Live and learn.

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I have had the same problem with the powder, won't ever do that again.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:33 PM   #5
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I've been running the Equal powder in my tires for over three years. If installed correctly (they must put in a new valve stem that comes with the package) it will clog or leak. I've had zero leaks in the time I've had in my tires. I've put about 29,000 miles on them since installatioin of the Equal (when the tire were mounted new). They look and ride great. I have had Pressure Pro on my valve stems for the past five years. When the weather gets cold I have to add a few pounds of air to compensate for the temperature related drop. When the weather warms back up, I let it back out. There has never been a problem getting the air in or out. Your problem may be a CW installation problem, not a balancing beads problem.
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Simple cure the powder gets into non approved/normal valve stems when checking tire pressures (air going out of the valve stem) once you've checked the tire pressure air the tire up momentarily (air going back into the tire) which will clean the granules out of the valve stem.
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...If installed correctly (they must put in a new valve stem that comes with the package) ...
Pretty much looks like CW failed to install the screened valve cores and that's a big no-no. They failed to do so on my rig as well. By the time I realized it I wound up having to install the cores myself, carefully letting out the air so as not to blow out the powder. Here's some pics of what those cores look like... About half way down the page...

Equal Tire Balancer -- EE -- Expedition Exchange Incorporated

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IMI | AirX Filtered Valve Core eliminates dirt, particles, debris
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Wow, nice having pics to show that. i worked in tire shop for five yrs, class A tech for 35 yrs and hav never seen those cores. Thanks for the education.
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Some folks even install O-ringed metal valve stem caps (in addition to the filtered cores) as a second line of defense against leakage... A plastic or non O-ringed cap will not hold pressure.

Use of certain dually valve stem "extenders" can complicate matters.
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The Dyna Bead product does not require special valve stems as the beads are too big to enter the valve core.
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Simple cure the powder gets into non approved/normal valve stems when checking tire pressures (air going out of the valve stem) once you've checked the tire pressure air the tire up momentarily (air going back into the tire) which will clean the granules out of the valve stem.
X2.

We have had 10 years of successful experience with Equal.

One tire leaked but the above procedure fixed that.
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I too feel the Dynabeads are superior to equal powder. They balance well and don't clog the valve stems.
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We ran into the same problem. The schrader valves were failing. The weights worked fine and we will continue to use them. On a motorcycle the local dealers use the pack weight on the rear and real weights on the front. I can't see a short cut being used on such an investment.
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When you have the equal powder put in you have to have special valve stems installed to make sure you don't have problems from powder in either the valve or the TPMS sensors.

Dyna beads should not (But I won't guarantee they won't) cause these problems

I remain convinced the BEST way to balance is the old fashion way, But that's mostly opinion as opposed to fact I can support.
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