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Old 12-10-2016, 09:04 PM   #1
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I often see folks list Tiffin, Newmar and Entegra as the top motorhomes for service and quality. What are the reasons that Winnebago isn't included with these brands?
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I often see folks list Tiffin, Newmar and Entegra as the top motorhomes for service and quality. What are the reasons that Winnebago isn't included with these brands?

Elitism may be a factor. Newmar has earned its reputation as a,quality builder over many years. Winnebago has always given a lot of bang for the buck.
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I equate it to my favorite quote:
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Winnebago & those that own them know where it stands.

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I often see folks list Tiffin, Newmar and Entegra as the top motorhomes for service and quality. What are the reasons that Winnebago isn't included with these brands?
I'll take a stab at your question.
In a word... snob appeal, which is better Ford/Chevy/Chrysler/Mercedes or Rolls?
Or.. there are those individuals who are not looking for the biggest "bang for the Buck",
IE: They just want the highest quality components and build.

Thor/Winnebago/Forrest River an a few others are perceived as "entry level" coaches. IE: top of line under 250/$350k) give or take

Tiffin/Newmar/Monaco & others are perceived as "mid Level" coaches.
IE: top of line $350 to $500k more or less

The "top Dawgs" so to speak would be Prevost/Newell/Foretravel.
(These are limited production numbers produced in a given year.)

By using the best/highest quality (not to be confused with the lowest bid suppliers) the initial build component costs will be "elevated" to say the least.
IE: retail $ spread from $700k and up..... There are coaches that are over $2+ million....

The more costly the coach is, the higher the profit margins are,therefor... the more willing most mfg's are to go the service/warranty distance ....insuring that the customer is happy and will return to buy another coach from them...or at a minimum will recommend their coaches to others that are willing to pay the price.

Hope this helps....
The more complex the coach ... the higher the maintenance costs
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We looked at all of them prior to purchasing our Tour. They (in the price range we wanted to spend) were all very similar when viewed on the dealers lot. The Tour had the features and floorplan that suited our needs and wants the best.

So far the quality, service and dealer have met or exceeded or expectations.

If we purchase a new unit in the future we will look at them all but seriously consider WGO again.
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I don't know that I'd consider a $450k Grand Tour or $400k Tuscany "entry level". If that's the case, my Bounder must have been an Odd Lots purchase.

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P.S. Of the well-known branded names still in business, I think only Fleetwood (1950) has been in business longer than Winnebago (1958)
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I don't know that I'd consider a $450k Grand Tour or $400k Tuscany "entry level". If that's the case, my Bounder must have been an Odd Lots purchase.

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P.S. Of the well-known branded names still in business, I think only Fleetwood (1950) has been in business longer than Winnebago (1958)




But Fleetwood and the brands it owned are now owned by a conglomerate, REV. I think Winnebago is still independent as is Newmar and Tiffin. I think those three are the only ones left (excluding the extreme upper level coaches Prevost, Newell and Foretravel) that weathered the last recession of 2008 -10 or so.
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So there is best quality, best service, best value and best price. For gassers I think Newmar is one if not top of the line for quality and service. For diesels well that's another thing. I am guessing Provost or Newell someone will have to validate this one. But I am very happy with my Newmar. Took me all he way to Cali for Nj and is hopefully will take me back before this Xmas.
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Which is best?

The one you get and are happy with from day one that gives you the least problems.
Going into our 2013 Tiffin 36LA gasser's 4th year has hit all the marks for us.
We are just as pleased with it now as the day we bought it. See no reason to change whatsoever.
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Not that this discussion is within my pay grade but, of the Diesel brands mentioned by Vanslam, only Newell and Foretravel sell complete motorhomes/coaches. Prevost Car Inc, owned by Volvo Bus Corporation, sells an empty shell and completed motorhomes are provided by a convertor who completes the interior and sells the result under their brand name. Here's the Prevost list of convertors: https://www.prevostcar.com/motorhome/locate

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So there is best quality, best service, best value and best price. For gassers I think Newmar is one if not top of the line for quality and service. For diesels well that's another thing. I am guessing Provost or Newell someone will have to validate this one. But I am very happy with my Newmar. Took me all he way to Cali for Nj and is hopefully will take me back before this Xmas.
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Tiffin/Newmar/Monaco & others are perceived as "mid Level" coaches.
IE: top of line $350 to $500k more or less
Newmar King Airs go for close to or over $900,000 now.
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Just my opinion here.
We are in the process of selecting what out next coach will be.
We saw some nice floor plans in the Winnebago line. After doing the research on the models and the years of slide problems, it just didn't make sense for us. I am sure some owners are very happy with theirs, that's for sure.
Newmar has had some issues with their new full wall slide, but over all, in my opinion, just flat builds a quality coach.
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Are you asking about the highest quality? Most expensive? Likely to last the longest? Some other criteria? There are a large number of issues the people will rank as most important.

My list would start with Bluebird Wanderlodge, Prevost, Country Coach, Foretravel and Newell, due solely to starting with a bus-like integrated frame and chassis and not just a chassis, but it would be based on structural integrity and durability.

But that may not matter a lot in the RV world to many people. A typical 10 year old MH has less than 50,000 miles, so a better list might be one that would perform for 50,000 miles or 10 years and be affordable.

Lots of approaches, it just depends on what is important to you.
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Just my opinion here.
We are in the process of selecting what out next coach will be.
We saw some nice floor plans in the Winnebago line. After doing the research on the models and the years of slide problems, it just didn't make sense for us. I am sure some owners are very happy with theirs, that's for sure.
Newmar has had some issues with their new full wall slide, but over all, in my opinion, just flat builds a quality coach.
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