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Old 07-22-2015, 06:16 PM   #1
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BORDER WARS. How to win them?

If I buy a coach from Canada, what's involved with getting it into the States?

Do I need a passport? Can the seller meet me in the US and we do all paperwork over here? Is there a ton of paperwork and inspections to look forward to by both sides of the border, or....

Am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
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Old 07-22-2015, 06:21 PM   #2
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If you go into Canada you need a passport.

No idea what it would take to buy a Canadian rig and registering it the US. You might check the point of origin, if it was made in the USA it might be easier.
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Old 07-22-2015, 06:24 PM   #3
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I'm not sure you do 'need' a passport to get into Canada, but you may need one to get back into the US !
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Old 07-22-2015, 06:28 PM   #4
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I'm not sure you do 'need' a passport to get into Canada, but you may need one to get back into the US !
OK, so seller likely would have one, so could we do a deal over on this side? Is there any reason or need to involve the border?
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I'm sure there is a way. You'd have to research it.
We dont use the same 'Pink slip' proof of ownership system the US has. Dont know how that all works when purchasing a Canadian registered vehicle in the US .
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Old 07-22-2015, 06:53 PM   #6
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Hello Rick,

1. Yes, you should have a passport to enter Canada (not yet mandatory) but you need it to return to the USA. For entry to Canada w/o a passport your birth certificate or citizenship certificate with other State issued ID. BTW, don't use your CCW if you have one, unless you want our boys tearing your stuff apart looking for a handgun!

2. To be absolutely safe, you should contact a US Custom House Broker for re-importing a US manufactured MH to the USA. Yes, they are normally considered US goods returning, but there could be EPA and USDOT issues which may require the manufacturer to sign a attestation to. In some cases you would be required to have a USDOT agent complete documents for you. Get the professional advise from the horses mouth! In the USA, I would contact a broker like Livingston International and make sure you contact one of their offices that is at a border point, not an inland office.

3. The Canadian isn't likely to want to import the unit for you, as he would have to jump the hoops instead of you.

4. With our dollar tanking (.76cents US) there certainly could be some attractive deals on used or newer MH's for you.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...port%20vehicle



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I am no export on this, but but it was me I would start with the DMV in your home state. Perhaps from there to check with customs. I live in Washington state and am a member of a couple of antique car clubs. I'm aware some members have sold cars in Canada and also purchased them there.
There is a protocol. At the moment I just don't have the info at hand.
The issue I think for you will most likely be involved with are the tax's (theirs and perhaps ours) and safety regulations (That your new rig meets them)
I suspect your question is driven by an attractive price on a Canadian rig as opposed to what you might have to pay for a similar one here in the states.
What often screws up the deal is the import tax and the hassel involved with making sure the new rig meets all our safety standards.
A few yerars back a navy buddy of mine imported an American car from Japan as he transited to a new assigment here at home. The car purchased from a Japanese citizen had a market value here at home three times what he paid for the car in Japan. However when he got home he had to pay a three thousand dollar bond while he jumped through the hoops to legally prove the car was made here and even though exported out of the country met all the requirements for use in the USA. It took several months and a lot of effort to bring it all together. In the end he kept the car but the reality was buying at home would have been much easier. Unless what your after has great antique value or personal value, sometimes its just not worth all the hassel. Good luck!
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The other issue is checking to see if there is a lien (if buying from an individual). We don't use a Title on vehicles here.
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The other issue is checking to see if there is a lien (if buying from an individual). We don't use a Title on vehicles here.
Is an ownership not title? (fellow Canadian)
I believe Americans need passport to enter Canada and return to the USA just as we have to in reverse.
It's a fact of modern day travel thanks to 911.
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The other issue is checking to see if there is a lien (if buying from an individual). We don't use a Title on vehicles here.
I could maybe assume that a broker would do this as part of the drill, but if not, how would one determine whether or not there was a lien?
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You can go to the department of Motor Vehicles in whatever province and they can do a lien search. They will give you a print out. The Canadian registration form is the document that you need along with a transfer form signed by both parties. That is the way it is in B.C. and Alberta.
My son bought a boat in the US and imported it to BC. The thing we found out was to notify both the Canadian Customs and US. It will save a lot of troubles.
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You can go to the department of Motor Vehicles in whatever province and they can do a lien search. They will give you a print out. The Canadian registration form is the document that you need along with a transfer form signed by both parties. That is the way it is in B.C. and Alberta.
My son bought a boat in the US and imported it to BC. The thing we found out was to notify both the Canadian Customs and US. It will save a lot of troubles.

Just for grins, what dollar amount could we guesstimate it would take to get a $100,000CA coach into the US?
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Just for grins, what dollar amount could we guesstimate it would take to get a $100,000CA coach into the US?
About $77,000 USD. + 2.5 %
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There is no import duty (NAFTA) and it is US goods returning anyway. Liens can be checked at a Provincial Gov't Office or online in some Provinces via the Personal Property Registry. The only two issues is that it meets USDOT (has the sticker) and the engine has the USEPA compliance label affixed. Coached originally exported to Canada has some extra safety stuff to comply with CSA/RVAC as some of our standards exceed the US standards. Check the link I previously provided. Then check with your State as to their inspection and tax requirements/payments.
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