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Old 06-26-2014, 12:04 PM   #1
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Buying Class A DP

Wife and I are close to buying our first Motorhome. We have two in our sights:
1) 2002 Monaco 40PBT Diplomat, 3 slides, 54k miles
2) 2003 Fleetwood Excursion, 40ft CAT diesel, 2 slides, 32k miles

Any thoughts from y'all? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:11 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. Treacherous road you've begun

Everyone is about to tell you to pick the floorplan you like and run with that, but I would stop to consider the chassis carefully on each. I am not sure which chassis either of those coaches used.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:13 PM   #3
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Do either of them need new tires? Check the dates on the date stamp. At the 4 to 7 year mark, and FOR SURE older than 7, you'll want new tires.

Don't want this to happen
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Monaco has Roadmaster chassis. Not sure on the Excursion. Is the date stamp right on the tire sidewall?
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Did monaco do the rr10 back then, or was it a different roadmaster? I can't imagine the build quality on the excursion to exceed the monaco.
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First of all-- how will you use it? will you be fulltiming or vacationing ?
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Pretty close to full timing. Main reason we wanted a 40' DP.
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Wife and I are close to buying our first Motorhome. We have two in our sights:

1) 2002 Monaco 40PBT Diplomat, 3 slides, 54k miles

2) 2003 Fleetwood Excursion, 40ft CAT diesel, 2 slides, 32k miles



Any thoughts from y'all? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Here is a brochure for the Diplomat:

http://www.monacocoach.com/StaticFil...02Diplomat.pdf

The Chassis is the Roadmaster RR8R which is 8 airbags/shocks and a rear radiator. In '02 Monaco had not switched to that nomenclature yet and called the chassis RM8H. It has a Cummins ISC/Allison 3000 drivetrain. The ISC was somewhat prone to cracked exhaust manifold. The Allison is bulletproof when maintained properly. The rear radiator stack needs regular cleaning to get rid of the oily deposits from the open draft tube and road dust. The draft tube can be extended to minimize the problem. The standard generator is an LP model but a more desirable Diesel was an option. That era Monaco is generally very solid and well built.


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Pretty close to full timing. Main reason we wanted a 40' DP.

In that case I'd go with the Monaco. I believe '02 is the "old" Monaco, so more reliably built for fulltiming.
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OK, I'll follow the advice.

#1 consideration should be floor-plan. The reason is this, you will be living in it (even if it's part-timing) much more than you will be driving it. We full-time and sold our DP for a gasser because the floor-plan was the best we found for our needs. Although we move the coach weekly we only "drive" the beast 1% of the year but we live in it 100% of the year. Therefore the floor-plan really does trump the everything else.

BTW in almost 20 years of RVing it's rare to meet someone who complains about their chassis but I have met hundreds who have wished they have had a different floor-plan.

As for the choice you presented I would vote Monaco, but I am biased I am a former Monaco owner, great build quality.
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What Steve Ownby said! We love our Monaco!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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Hi,

First question I have have you ever driven anything that big before? 40 footer does not handle like a car or pickup truck. What do you know about air brakes?

Are you prepared for expensive maintenance costs for a DP like $200 for an oil change or using in Winter when diesel fuel has a chance to gel or lack of use causing algae in the tank.

Yes Floor plans play a big deal in full timing and I would check that out.

Another thing to consider like everyone has stated is tires are they in good shape and has the coach been maintained well?

You should in my estimation check out the floor plans say on a 36"-38" gas powered motorhome as they have some nice floor plans.I happen to have a 35 foot Winnebago and truly love the floor plan including the double door refrigerator with ice make, the stacked washer and dryer(better than the all in one) and the sleep n umber king size bed.

Before just looking at price look at all the other options before leaping into your full time home.

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Buy the one your wife likes the floor plan the best.
Kitchen room to work, TV easy to see from sitting position, bedroom closet easy to use and holds a lot, bathroom shower big enough.

And can most everything be used when slides are in? May be times they can't be put out overnight. Can refrigerator, micro, bed etc still be used slides in?
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Thanks to all! Your comments have been very helpful. I just bought the Monaco Diplomat. Will take delivery in late August.
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