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Old 08-18-2018, 02:04 PM   #1
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Hi guys, we’re buying a used class A 40’ plus. We’ve been doing our due diligence, and know newer model RV’S lack quality. What year(s) did quality really “fall off”? We will be full-timers, so we need reliability. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Gas or diesel?
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:14 PM   #3
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That is tough question. Each unit/manufacturer can have it's issues and challenges. Let us know make model and year and I'm sure someone will have some experience and can give you some insight.
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Diesel, 450hp & up. Been looking at Newmar, Holiday Rambler, American Coach.
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Well in my opinion, the quality of all coaches that roll
down an assembly line are about the same. What the
problem has been is poor quality control. So any new
unit will have numerous issues, that get resolved by
the owner in the first several months. Buying a used
coach, with documented service and maintenance
records, will likely not have significant quality issues.
Wear and tear items, tires, batteries, etc will be your
main concerns. On a diesel, mileage is irrelevant, in
fact a low mileage one may be the worst choice, since
machines that sit unused do have more problems.
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Haven't noticed any trend of quality going down from forum posts et al. In general, because manufacturing gets generally better, that quality likely has gotten better. Definitely true for automotive.
RVs are more custom made and automotive manufacturing technology is a big leap beyond RVs due to the industry scale to invest.

I think you have to be careful reading forum posts to make conclusions. Know that I believe there are folks more apt to post an issue on their brand new baby then one they have had for a few years. And the thread you read today is about today's latest model not 10 year ago brand new model.

The relatively recent adoption (by the RV industry) of CAN based control systems and that these systems are far more advanced than earlier "dumb" systems is probably one of the more significant possible dents on new model quality issues.

Buy floorplan, vehicle size, look and feel, brand and what you find available used at a good price.
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I will disagree somewhat with the notion that "quality is about the same" in all coaches. Our 1998 Beaver has woodwork that is leaps and bounds above anything we've ever seen. Mortise and Tenon joints, solid wood EVERYWHERE, etc. Fit and finish as well as attention to detail really standout from anything we've owned previously. Obviously items that aren't proprietary to Beaver will be similar across all makes (fridge, engine, AC, etc), but in GENERAL, some units are better than others.
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Hi guys, we’re buying a used class A 40’ plus. We’ve been doing our due diligence, and know newer model RV’S lack quality. .............Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
First of all, Welcome! Resources here are remarkable, and readily offered. You’ve come to the right place.
To aid in your search I suggest you reference the RV Consumer Group, www.rv.org . Many- including me- have found their reviews and evaluations highly valuable in selecting an RV.
As to quality, I disagree with your take. I agree with macandphyl in that quality control is the issue, and I think it’s temporary. As production ramps up with demand, production errors and warranty repairs increase. I don’t excuse, only explain.
As a full timer, your considerations focus on the robustness of construction and the ability of your chosen home to tolerate the 24/7/365 usage that you will demand of it. The fact is that all RVs are not created equal, but no builders’ brochures will acknowledge this. Some are designed and built with constant use in mind, while others are conceived in a world where folks take one two-week trip in the summer, tailgate six football games in the fall, then get put away for 6 months.
Your search needs to prioritize a reputation for reliability and longevity before you start worrying about cosmetic details or floor plans. If you see one or two brands with a fair number of twenty year old coaches still exercising the market, that tells you something about longevity. If you happen to notice that there are a number of late model Brand X units, but you see very few from prior to about 2010 or 12, well, that tells you something else. You want a bus that will last, and quality lasts.
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I will disagree somewhat with the notion that "quality is about the same" in all coaches. Our 1998 Beaver has woodwork that is leaps and bounds above anything we've ever seen. Mortise and Tenon joints, solid wood EVERYWHERE, etc. Fit and finish as well as attention to detail really standout from anything we've owned previously. Obviously items that aren't proprietary to Beaver will be similar across all makes (fridge, engine, AC, etc), but in GENERAL, some units are better than others.
Agree.... Beaver has great quality interior and a solid chassis. And.... I really love my Jake brake!
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Hi guys, we’re buying a used class A 40’ plus. We’ve been doing our due diligence, and know newer model RV’S lack quality. What year(s) did quality really “fall off”? We will be full-timers, so we need reliability. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
My guess would be 2004 or so when the housing market started going crazy and home owners were flush with cash from equity refinancing. Demand started to out pace supply and builders needed to speed up production. Something had to give and from an owner's point of view quality control seemed to take the hit. 2008 when everything took a dive builders were now looking for ways to maintain production but to cut costs to the maximum extent to stay in business and quality assurance didn't appear to improve with slower production. Fast forward to 2018 and demand is once again swinging up. The boom/bust cycles are not making for the best business model or product.

If you're willing to step back 10 or 15 years there are some excellent rigs out there. A good place to start is Motorhomes of Texas ALL Pre Owned motorhomes Inventory. Personally, while the older rigs look nice and even considering the low asking price I would rather go after the two to five year old coach. First owner had the head aches of post sale warranty work to get the quality were it should have been in addition to the rapid initial depreciation. Also, most of the improvements and innovation that have hit the market over the past 10 years can be retrofitted into older floor plans but some (HDTV, residential fridge, split washer dryer,,,) I would rather have as part of initial construction.
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Thanks for the advice.
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