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Old 06-09-2019, 04:25 PM   #1
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Can I deploy slides without the Jack's down?

I'm at a campground that needs jack pads, my rear Jack's sunk into the ground like 6 or 8 inches and the front wouldn't go down at all after that. My jack pads are from my last coach which was half the weight of this one. I believe I need some decent jacks pars here to be effective, the ones I have would just snap in half. I'm pretty darn level without the Jack's, so is there any reason I can just use my slideout rooms without the Jack's?
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If its pretty darn level I would just leave the jacks up and put the slides out.
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:51 PM   #4
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If its pretty darn level I would just leave the jacks up and put the slides out.
Okay thanks, just wanting to make sure.
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This applies to coaches like mine where the slide trim fits into an outer frame for a (I believe the term is) "flat wall" slide. This may or may not strictly apply to your slides but the techniques should if you can tell that your slide is squarely set into the wall when it is retracted.

The first thing I would do is check the "slide reveal". That is to see if your outside slide wall is evenly set into the trim. You are looking to see those gaps are relatively even.

In that kind of situation you are in I have a couple techniques:

Sometimes if it is only an overnight stop I will park the RV and check the gaps of the reveal. If the gaps look relatively even then I will put out slides as needed. My only concern is if the bags bleed down that the geometry might change. To avoid that problem I will air up the bags first before bringing the slides in. BTW, this technique could be best if your wheels are not on level ground.

At other times where I might be in a spot for a but longer and/or I have a pretty level spot I'll dump the air bags, check the reveal and if all is good put the slides out. I prefer this because the coach is more stable then if up on the airbags. When I do this I make sure I retract the slides before airing the coach up. Of course, if the reveal isn't good after dumping the airbags I re-inflate and try the first method.
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This applies to coaches like mine where the slide trim fits into an outer frame for a (I believe the term is) "flat wall" slide. This may or may not strictly apply to your slides but the techniques should if you can tell that your slide is squarely set into the wall when it is retracted.

The first thing I would do is check the "slide reveal". That is to see if your outside slide wall is evenly set into the trim. You are looking to see those gaps are relatively even.

In that kind of situation you are in I have a couple techniques:

Sometimes if it is only an overnight stop I will park the RV and check the gaps of the reveal. If the gaps look relatively even then I will put out slides as needed. My only concern is if the bags bleed down that the geometry might change. To avoid that problem I will air up the bags first before bringing the slides in. BTW, this technique could be best if your wheels are not on level ground.

At other times where I might be in a spot for a but longer and/or I have a pretty level spot I'll dump the air bags, check the reveal and if all is good put the slides out. I prefer this because the coach is more stable then if up on the airbags. When I do this I make sure I retract the slides before airing the coach up. Of course, if the reveal isn't good after dumping the airbags I re-inflate and try the first method.
I don't have the same slides that you do. I used a level in three sections of my coach and it was darn near perfectly level, so my thought was it should not be a problem deploying my slides which I have done right after I dumped the bags. It's only two nights so I'm thinking it won't do any harm.
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I don't have the same slides that you do. I used a level in three sections of my coach and it was darn near perfectly level, so my thought was it should not be a problem deploying my slides which I have done right after I dumped the bags. It's only two nights so I'm thinking it won't do any harm.
Sounds like your slides should be square in the hole to me.
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This applies to coaches like mine where the slide trim fits into an outer frame for a (I believe the term is) "flat wall" slide. This may or may not strictly apply to your slides but the techniques should if you can tell that your slide is squarely set into the wall when it is retracted.

The first thing I would do is check the "slide reveal". That is to see if your outside slide wall is evenly set into the trim. You are looking to see those gaps are relatively even.

In that kind of situation you are in I have a couple techniques:

Sometimes if it is only an overnight stop I will park the RV and check the gaps of the reveal. If the gaps look relatively even then I will put out slides as needed. My only concern is if the bags bleed down that the geometry might change. To avoid that problem I will air up the bags first before bringing the slides in. BTW, this technique could be best if your wheels are not on level ground.

At other times where I might be in a spot for a but longer and/or I have a pretty level spot I'll dump the air bags, check the reveal and if all is good put the slides out. I prefer this because the coach is more stable then if up on the airbags. When I do this I make sure I retract the slides before airing the coach up. Of course, if the reveal isn't good after dumping the airbags I re-inflate and try the first method.
I don't have the same slides that you do. I used a level in three sections of my coach and it was darn near perfectly level, so my thought was it should not be a problem deploying my slides which I have done right after I dumped the bags. It's only two nights so I'm thinking it won't do any harm.
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Sounds like your slides should be square in the hole to me.
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FWIW, My coach is a forest river Berkshire so the construction is probably similar to your coachmen.
The slides are not very precision fit and there is a 3 to 4" rubber wiper all the way around.
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RV dealers do it all the time, but I own ours so I put the jacks down first then the slides, like the manufacture says.
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RV dealers do it all the time, but I own ours so I put the jacks down first then the slides, like the manufacture says.
The point I was making is that I cannot deploy the jacks.
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Often when I'm level, I don't deploy the jacks to put the slides out. Did the same with a Newmar, Pace Arrow, Monaco and now a Winnebago. Never had an issue.
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