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Old 04-24-2012, 09:44 AM   #15
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Had this happen recently to a fellow camper. It was electronics. I held the on/off button in for about 5 seconds. It reset everything. Pushed retract and up they came.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:35 AM   #16
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take the touch panel out and unplug it. this is the control panel for power gear jacks. leave it unplugged for 10 seconds + -, and re install it. this reboots the panel. note, that the rooms are separate from the jacks.
if all the jacks wont retract, compared to just one that wont, it is a control panel problem. you can loosen the hoses and allow the jacks to retract.
go on your trip and use boards to level. dont let this ruin or delay your trip. there are thousands of coachs out there with no leveling system. you will survive.
I was thinking that we had to have the jacks down to put out the slide. We thought that maybe the slide would bend the motorhome without the jacks out. We are sort of clueless.
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I can get 'em up for you but there is a cost.

First you need to find the pump. If you hear a clicking sound track it down.

Now.. The pump has 3 or 4 hoses going to it, and 4 valves.. Each valve is surrounded by an electromagnet.. Using a common table knife, or a key or any other ferromagnetic item (Means a magnet can attract it) hold it near the magnets (one at a time) as your partner taps the RETRACT ALL button, note you have to hold this button for a couple seconds.. Should attract the FLAT side of the knife This means electronics are working as designed, ALL 4 magnets should attract.

If that works, you can ID the valve for the front and loosen the cap, ON SOME of them there is a manual screw under the cap you can unscrew (you will have to do the same on the 4th valve by the way, do it first) on others there is not (Mine there is not)

If not then you need to remove the valve, this will cause a loss of hydraulic fluid.

Replace valve once retracted and drive to repair shop.
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Powergear hydraulic is a one way system. pressure pushes the jacks down. Hitting the release button opens the hydraulic system into the reservoir, and the springs on the jack rams push the fluid back and the jacks up.

Pry em up. Have someone hold the button, get some pry bars under em and pry em up. Gotta do both, they are connected together, run by a single line.

You could, as a last resort, loosen the hydraulic hose. The fluid will come out, and the jacks will come up. Here's the devil you are dealing with, it is very simple really, a reservior, a pump, and 3 electric valves to allow or not allow fluid to flow to/from the front, left rear, and right rear rams, and a fourth "dump" valve to raise the jacks.
Where is the hose and how do I loosen it?
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I can get 'em up for you but there is a cost.

First you need to find the pump. If you hear a clicking sound track it down.

Now.. The pump has 3 or 4 hoses going to it, and 4 valves.. Each valve is surrounded by an electromagnet.. Using a common table knife, or a key or any other ferromagnetic item (Means a magnet can attract it) hold it near the magnets (one at a time) as your partner taps the RETRACT ALL button, note you have to hold this button for a couple seconds.. Should attract the FLAT side of the knife This means electronics are working as designed, ALL 4 magnets should attract.

If that works, you can ID the valve for the front and loosen the cap, ON SOME of them there is a manual screw under the cap you can unscrew (you will have to do the same on the 4th valve by the way, do it first) on others there is not (Mine there is not)

If not then you need to remove the valve, this will cause a loss of hydraulic fluid.

Replace valve once retracted and drive to repair shop.
Ok I am sort of following. I do know where the pump is (if you mean reservoir for the hydraullic fluid, long metal cylinder thingy) and that is where the clicking noise is. Now I will go out and do the knife thingy. If they all attract you said i could then ID the front valve. What does ID mean? Identify maybe? And how do I identify the front valve from the back? Is this easier than disconnecting the hose to bring up the darn jacks?
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Had this happen recently to a fellow camper. It was electronics. I held the on/off button in for about 5 seconds. It reset everything. Pushed retract and up they came.
Just held the button down like you said. Nothing.
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Get out the old turkey baster. Get some Dexron III transmission fluid, clear stuff if you can find it. Put in a half cup of fluid. Try to retract. If not, put in another half cup and try. You can repeat this process and if the jacks start to come up, use the baster to suck out any excess. Since the back jacks did not go down I am "suspecting" low fluid. However, it easily could be the pump also.

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Put a half cup in. Nothing. I will try another half cup.
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Get out the old turkey baster. Get some Dexron III transmission fluid, clear stuff if you can find it. Put in a half cup of fluid. Try to retract. If not, put in another half cup and try. You can repeat this process and if the jacks start to come up, use the baster to suck out any excess. Since the back jacks did not go down I am "suspecting" low fluid. However, it easily could be the pump also.

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Another half cup. Nothing
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most table knives stainless?
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most table knives stainless?
Excellent point, hold a refrigerator magnetic to the knife or screw driver to verify it is ferromagnetic, means the magnet is attracted to it, if the magnet is not attracted to it, find something else that does attract the magnet.
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take the touch panel out and unplug it. this is the control panel for power gear jacks. leave it unplugged for 10 seconds + -, and re install it. this reboots the panel. note, that the rooms are separate from the jacks.
if all the jacks wont retract, compared to just one that wont, it is a control panel problem. you can loosen the hoses and allow the jacks to retract.
go on your trip and use boards to level. dont let this ruin or delay your trip. there are thousands of coachs out there with no leveling system. you will survive.
If I loosen the hose and they come up do I need to tie them up or something so I can drive it without them falling down. Or would re-tightening the hose be adequate to keep them up?
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The springs retract and hold them up.
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Where you put in the fluid, there are hoses nearby (A few inches) and the valves are there too.. ID the valve for the front (it has 2 hoses or a hose that runs to a "T" fitting) and remove it, easier than removing a hose.

You may get messy as it will jet hydraulic fluid.

Once the jacks are up, replace valve and top off

The valves are cylinders, silver in color with electromagnet coils wrepped around them, they have a black plastic cap, remove the cap, remove the magnet (it just slides off) and then you can loosen the valve.

NOTE: some of them have screws under the cap. If yours do loosen all caps and screws and the jacks will come up.
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you are getting some good answers. my point was that you only have to have the coach level. not the jacks down. the slides work separately from the jacks. whether you loosen the hoses, hold a good magnet on the valves.add fluid, any of those will work, or at least will help diagnose the problem.
if you really want to go, loosen the hoses. messy, but it will work. the extend hoses will not leak much fliud, the retract will leak a lot. you probably will get a fluid bath. if you are under the coach, make sure you have enough wiggle room in case of a tight squeeze, as the coach will come down to ride height.
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