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Old 09-10-2014, 10:18 PM   #1
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Carry Capacity

I have a 2000 Winneago wih has a CCC of 5200+ pounds. I only carry about
2000 pounds of junk. So I have 3000+ pounds extra (unused) capacity.
I am considering upgrading o a newer unit, but it has a CCC of 3100 pounds.
Subtract my 2000 fro the 3100 and I have some 1100 pounds left before I reach GVWR. Should I be concerned? Also this newer unit has more outside storage so I know I'llbe tempted to carry more junk which will push me closer to te GVWR. What do you think?
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:28 AM   #2
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Art, I'll guess you mean GCVW for CCC, but I could be wrong. (Often, she who must be obeyed, says). If you haven't actually weighed your rig , like on a Cat Scale or something like it, you may be surprised at the weight you carry. (&/Or tow). Some people make a big deal about weight and tire inflation pressure, but just as important is the weight you put on your drive train.
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I'm glad your taking the time to crunch the numbers, far too many RV purchasers don't , then find out too late they're overweight.
If your sure your current load is 2,000lbs and the new coach, will leave you an 1,100lb cushion > JMHO: You should be fine , personally , I don't think I leave 1,100lbs, of stuff, laying around at home so, even though there is more space I think you'll have a tough time using up the cushion.
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I think 3K of CCC is plenty for you. The CCC assumes you have full water which you likely wont.

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Don't passenger weights take up CCC? In fact, isn't today's standard the NHTSA's OCCC -- where water and passengers count against carrying capacity?

I haven't read up on this in a while so maybe someone will have some current and correct info on today's newer coaches.
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Hi artvdb,
Welcome to posting on iRV2. CCC = Cargo Carrying Capacity. The term "cargo" means everything. Your stuff, family, you, water and anything else one adds to the coach. The heavy items are usually:
1. fresh water
2. propane
3. anything in the holding tanks?
4. clothing (really)
5. people (not much one can do about this weight )
6. food cooking and serving items (place setting for 12 is really needed?)
7. groceries
8. tools

It doesn't take much to add up to 4 digits of weight. Remember between the axles, weight is shared on each axle. Behind the rear axle, items are heavier than the actual weight depending on how far from the rear axle the item is stored.

Just did a weight loss reduction plan in my coach. Took out about 300 lbs of a variety items. Still need to do the wife's clothing. Must wait until this winter. Having the full width of the coach filled with female clothing at least 10' behind the rear axle is a bit much.
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6. food cooking and serving items (place setting for 12 is really needed?)
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Gary , are our wives related ? I'm hauling, an electric pressure cooker , brand new with 14,000 miles on it.
And after this post , it's time to change my access code : AGAIN !
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Behind the rear axle, items are heavier than the actual weight depending on how far from the rear axle the item is stored.
And may remove weight from the front axle since the axle will act as a fulcrum. It can also act backwards but it's kind of hard to add enough weight forward of the front axle to make much difference.
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Don't passenger weights take up CCC? In fact, isn't today's standard the NHTSA's OCCC -- where water and passengers count against carrying capacity?

I haven't read up on this in a while so maybe someone will have some current and correct info on today's newer coaches.
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Not on my rig. CCC is calculated AFTER taking 2 passengers (154lbs, hehe) and full tanks of fuel/water/propane oil and what have you. My point is, you likely have MORE CCC to deal with, at least I would, since I never carry anywhere near a full tank of water!

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This must be the gospel truth...I found it on the internet. It did state that the way this is calculated has changed in recent years, but they did not say when:

The Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) of an RV is the GVWR less the empty weight, the weight of the full water tank, the weight of the full propane tanks and the sleeping capacity.

Take the vehicle's gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR on Manufacturers Specifications):

--Subtract the vehicles unloaded weight (UVW) or empty weight (on Manufacturers Specifications).

--Subtract the weight of fresh water on board (8.3 pounds per gallon).

--Subtract the propane weight (4.2 pounds per gallon).

--Subtract the weight of the seating capacity weight rating (SCWR) (150 pounds times the number of seating positions).

Now you have arrived at the maximum Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) for your RV. Again, for safety reasons never exceed the maximum CCC for your RV. - See more at: Cargo Carrying Capacity
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BTW, as has been recommended. Get your coach 4 corner weighed and you may be surprised. You might be surprised at how much capacity you still have when loaded.

You may also be surprised to find that you cannot USE that CCC because an indivdual axle is already at it;s limit. This appears to be semi-common for rear axles on DP's which typically are rated for 20K Lbs.

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Corner weigh your coach if you can with everything in it and the tanks filled to how you normally travel (fuel tank full).

Then you can check your axle loading and inflate your tires appropriately.

Subtract the axle weights from the GAWR front and back and you will see how much weight you can add at each end of your coach.

It you add much weight get the corner loading done again and reinflate the tires to the new requirements.

Vehicle Law #3: More weight = lower fuel economy.
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And may remove weight from the front axle since the axle will act as a fulcrum. It can also act backwards but it's kind of hard to add enough weight forward of the front axle to make much difference.
Exchange beautiful skinny wife for fat ugly girlfriend. yep, that would do it.
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Corner weigh your coach if you can with everything in it and the tanks filled to how you normally travel (fuel tank full).

Then you can check your axle loading and inflate your tires appropriately.

Subtract the axle weights from the GAWR front and back and you will see how much weight you can add at each end of your coach.

It you add much weight get the corner loading done again and reinflate the tires to the new requirements.

Vehicle Law #3: More weight = lower fuel economy.
Missed the GVWR. Total weight of the unit should be less than the GVWR.
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