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Old 04-19-2016, 10:04 PM   #1
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Ceramic Tile Removal - '04 Tiffin Allegro Bus

I want to replace all the carpet and ceramic tile in my 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bus. However, I can't figure out how to remove the old tile and subfloor. Can it even be done?
THE PROBLEM: The coach is built from the ground up. This means they started with the chassis, put a subfloor on it, installed all the flooring, and then built all the walls and cabinets and everything ON TOP of the tile! So, how do I remove the tile??? It seems there will be nothing to support the walls or cabinets if I chip out the tile. Can it even be done? I thought about laying my new flooring on top of the existing tile, but I really prefer to reduce the weight of the rig, not ADD to it.

Has anybody done this? Or know someone who has? Please help. I'm at a loss here!

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Old 04-19-2016, 10:30 PM   #2
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The only way I could see it would be possible is to cut the tiles along the baseboards with a hand power tile saw. This would leave the tiles intact under the walls and shouldn't affect the structure. You would then have to hammer drill the tiles up. I've done tile removal in a home and it's a very messy, time consuming job. The other thing is if you have heated floors you are going to probably ruin the heating coils removing the tile.

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Old 04-20-2016, 06:26 AM   #3
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We brought our 2003 Allegro Bus to Brannon "Custom RV" in Red Bay and had it done. Good price and we are very happy with his work, check out the reviews all good.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:12 PM   #4
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We removed the tile in our Fortravel. and you need to buy a new set of knee's first. it was a long and pain full removal. we removed everthing but the main cabinets and cut along the base of the cabinets with a cut off saw and diamond blade. and used a hammer and cats paw to remove the tile. and then sanded the floors with a commercial sander.
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Old 04-20-2016, 08:34 PM   #5
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X 2 what lt Dan said.
Good knee pads. Face mask. Safty glasses, hat and ear plugs.
Good Angle grinder, remove the guard with a good concrete diamond blade. Place something 1/8" up against cabnet (vinyl cove base is ideal) something as a cover and use on walls to prevent scratching damage When you cut Tape off the Windows with plastic, (chips could fly) cover everything and section off with plastic to maintain the dust. a bulldog hammer chisel with the wide blade. 4" ish. Not knowing what they used to install original tile. Look for a floor vent or waterline hole to determine what subfloor is prior ?
And have at it. Oh remove everything needed 1st. Before you start making a mess.
And even with all the plastic, be prepaired for dust everywhere.
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Old 05-24-2016, 11:40 PM   #6
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Just an update from the OP of this thread for anybody looking for follow up. I ended up removing the tile back to the point of the bathroom. That left me with just a few areas where I had to cut with the diamond blade on the angle grinder. I decided the bathroom area would have been too much with all the angles, tight spots and thin walls. It could probably be done, but I don't have the time nor patience for another week of demolition.

After chipping up all the tile with a heavy floor scraper and sometimes a hammer and chisel I began to chip up the backerboard with a hammer and heavy duty putty knife. Some of it popped right off in large chunks and some of it wouldn't separate at all but drove the putty knife into the subfloor. I took a diamond grinder to the very stubborn areas. I was then left with the layer of hardened, notched thinset that was originally troweled in. I smoothed that over with a premixed floor patch. I also used the floor patch in the bathroom area to fill in the low grout lines in the tile.

I then was finally able to lay my vinyl flooring over the prepared areas in the living area and the bathroom. I will just be left with a small transition into the bathroom which is about 5/8" higher than the other floor due to the tile still being in place.

Hard, dirty, exhausting work just like everybody said and I knew it would be. Thank goodness it's behind me now.

Thanks to everyone for the advice. The full remodel of my rig should be completed in the next 3-4 weeks and I will post pics in the remodel forum.
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Vinyl wood planks shoulh not add that much weight. I put planks on top of my ceramic tile, no problems. I also installed plywood, after taking up the carpet to raise that portion of the floor even with the ceramic tile, then laid down vinyl planks throughout. It looks very nice. Probably added about 150 pounds to the coach throughout.....about the weight of an additional person.

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