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02-02-2012, 07:57 PM
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Ford says different... there was also one less belt in the tread too...
Anyways... stick to what you are comfortable with and can afford. EVERYONE says their new tires 'are better'.... of course they are, they are new
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02-02-2012, 08:22 PM
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I used to buy nothing but Michelin until Janet Stevens, CS, wouldn't stand behind their product. After the second blow-out that destroyed the right rear bed of my truck and exhaust pipe, for the second time, I had Discount Tire remove all the Michelins, including the new spare and replace them with GY Silent Armor. The rear GY's are almost wore out. I check my tire pressure and condition before each trip.
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02-02-2012, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Midniteoyl
Ford says different... there was also one less belt in the tread too...
Anyways... stick to what you are comfortable with and can afford. EVERYONE says their new tires 'are better'.... of course they are, they are new
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Of course Ford would say something different, it was their neck on the line!
Large MH and truck tires take about 30,000 miles to break in according to the manufacturers. How many people ever make it that far on a set before the age out?
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02-02-2012, 11:14 PM
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I'm in same boat...tire hunting....I have been told in th last 6 months an 18% increase has occurred across the board...and prior to that another 8%....so if tire purchase pricing posted isn't within a few weeks to a month old...it will be drastically less than any current pricing. Mine has 33k miles but 10 yrs age on Bridgestones...they look brand new but were always covered. I'm sole searching, wallet searching, opinion searching in effort to find something likeable to my brain and wallet
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02-03-2012, 02:40 AM
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I buy all my tires from Discount Tire. The Toyo tires I had installed were bought from DT, but installed by S&S tire due to insurance and safety issues with DT. I could have probably found a better deal, but I don't like wasting my time searching
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02-03-2012, 04:25 AM
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I learned a valuable tire lesson from a buddy who is a tow truck driver. In tires, there are spec games played just like in other things. The weight rating on the tire is a "minimum" spec. Some tires barely meet the minimum spec and others exceed it, but they both have the same stamp on the sidewall.
The best way to tell if you are buying a good tire is to compare the weight of the tires of several different manufacturers. I'm not talking about the same weight as the one stamped on the sidewall, but the actual weight of the tire.
A heavier tire will have more rubber in it (duh), and a lot of that extra rubber will be in the sidewall. Thicker sidewalls mean less flexing going down the road. Less flexing means less heat. Less heat means a cooler running tire. Cooler tires mean longer life. In getting a few blowouts over the years on pickup/camper rigs, I learned that the most expensive tires can be the cheapest tires if you include the damage to the under-carriage caused by tread separation on the lower cost tires.
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02-03-2012, 06:18 PM
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More belts in the sidewall means less flexing, not rubber.. Though its really all about the air pressure.
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02-04-2012, 10:33 PM
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So a Double Coin RR300 tire (295/75-22.5 made in China by a company who Michelin owns 40+%) weighs in at 7-10 lbs more than the standard brands associated to be US made (ie: Michelin, Goodyear, Dunlop etc) is going to be better?
I don't know...is why I ask
Not trying to go into a China rant.....
I've read every post about tires possible...I've heard good and bad about just almost every brand....be it where made, how it lasted, how much,how well they ride, what they cost etc etc
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02-04-2012, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunner
I buy all my tires from Discount Tire. The Toyo tires I had installed were bought from DT, but installed by S&S tire due to insurance and safety issues with DT. I could have probably found a better deal, but I don't like wasting my time searching
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A tire technician was killed by a truck/MH tire explosion at DT so they will no longer mount large tires. Before I retired from the DOT the maintenance shed had a large 2" pipe cage that tires were put into when airing them up, saved a few people!
I don't mind "wasting time" trying to save money, it pays quite well at times!
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02-04-2012, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sc3283
So a Double Coin RR300 tire (295/75-22.5 made in China by a company who Michelin owns 40+%)
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Obviously if they only own 40% then they need to buy more so their superior engineering will be used. They need a majority to overrule the Chinese owners and get some quality control.
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02-04-2012, 11:25 PM
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They did... then they sold... then came back after Double Coin started doing well...
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02-05-2012, 12:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
I don't mind "wasting time" trying to save money, it pays quite well at times!
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What I meant was, I'm not driving across town to save a buck. If it is a significant amount, well yeah, I will make the trip and I do make some calls before I buy.
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02-05-2012, 01:02 AM
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[Rant]
Hey guys, lighten up. It's the poisonous lead they put in everything that makes Chinese tires heavier.
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