Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-06-2016, 09:56 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
FurbabyMama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2
Class A: Diesel or Gas?

Still looking for our first RV. We know gas engine makes it cheaper but heard diesel is more comfortable and engine lasts longer. Thoughts?
__________________

__________________
FurbabyMama is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 09-06-2016, 10:02 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
Posts: 5,458
What can you comfortably afford without going into debt?

What kind of traveling will you do? short trip a few times a year and perhaps a 2-week vacation? Are you retired and will be snowbirders for the winter season? Will you be full-timing and traveling constantly? This will come into play as to which one to get.

Do you have extra funds for diesel maintenance?

Either way....a good, quality manufacturer in a used unit (perhaps 2-4 years old) will save a lot of money right off the bat.

They both have pluses and minus's. It just depends.....
__________________

__________________
Full-timed for 16 Years . . . Back in S&B Again
Traveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Diesel
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th wheel
twogypsies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2016, 10:12 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Salvisa, KY
Posts: 2,302
Purchasing new or used?
Are you good with a wrench?
Type of use?
Miles per year?
Will you be towing? If so, what and how much weight?
Plan on owning for more than 5 years?

All goes into the equation. No real wrong answers, just what works for your usage, budget, and needs . . .
__________________
Hit_the_Rhod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2016, 10:17 PM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 50
Totally agree with twogypsies about the pre-owned coach.

This is an age old question that can (and has, I believe) been debated ad nauseum on this board and several others. You can find a wealth of information here to help guide your decision.

My best advice:

1. Drive both. Not just around a dealership but get them each out on the interstate, and see if the price of a diesel warrants the difference in drivability. Get the RPMs up on a gasser and see if you can deal with the cabin noise. Also both types have different suspension systems so keep that in mind.

2. Look at tons of floorpans - both gassers and diesels have different plans a lot of the time due to the different positioning of the engine - and find one that fits your needs. For us it was a tossup between the 38RE by Thor, and a Winnebago Tour. I loved the Thor, but it was a bit scary to me passing an oncoming semi truck on two lane roads (during a test drive). The other negative was that it only had 1 living room slide. Thats a small detail but can be a big deal when comparing to DPs that have 4 slides. On the other hand, if you want a toy hauler, gas is pretty much your only choice.

Keep in mind if a gasser is more in line with your budget there are also aftermarket accessories that can make it easier to drive. Sway bars, etc.

3. Figure out your budget and stick to it. Supposedly the diesels will last longer, but the funny saying is that when a sales person is trying to sell you a diesel they'll say "Diesels don't even get broken in until 100k miles." But when you're going to trade a high milage one in, they'll say "well we can't give you as much because its got 100k miles." Go figure.

Get out there and drive some - I think you'll be surprised and happy you did.
__________________
Todd, Jazz, Zooey, Cooper, & Luna
2011 Winnie Tour 40CD | Cummins 400HP
Flat Towing 2010 Kia Soul
clink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2016, 10:31 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 339
OP, you probably don't realize it but you've just asked the most inflammatory and most argued about thing on vehicle and RV forums. You're likely to get responses that fall strictly on "party lines". Meaning diesel owners will tell you a diesel is the only choice and gas owners will tell you gas is the only way to go.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time at all... I just want to make you realize the responses you are going to receive. I've been casually shopping/planning for a class A for years and find I get the best information in tidbits from somewhat unrelated threads.

Again, not a bad question... just predictable answers and arguments so brace yourself.
__________________
mtofell is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2016, 10:34 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
bluepill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pensacola, FL
Posts: 2,214
Yup, as already said, it's all about how you will be using it. We drove 27 thousand miles in 13 months, towing a large SUV behind, so we opted for the diesel.

It cost more up front, but we got more when we sold it.
__________________
2008 Itasca Meridian 37H & 2015 Flagstaff T12RBST
2011 & 2012 Len & Pat's "One lap of America"
27K miles & 41 states in 13 months - Woo Woo
Yellowstone Lake 6-1-2012
bluepill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 12:06 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
IASM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 445
A short question with a lot of answers . I wont debate the two power plants they both do what's ask of them and there's no question the diesel will last longer but the gas will last as long as most need also so I don't put much weight on that. Since most diesels are pushers it make the cab more comfortable but hard for someone to sleep in the back. The opposite with a gas. Most diesel machines are at a higher price point across the board so your budget is likely going to drive your decision.
If full timing a larger more appointed rig will provide more comfort but comes with more cost. My experience was we started with a ford van for camping and it had a bed and ice box .Then we got a trailer for a few yaers and then a 24 ft lifeline with a 440 dodge engine.We then went with a 40ft motorhome with 400hp cat diesel, then went to a 45 600hp diesel.
Our first was what we could afford and started figuring out floorplan and what we wanted.It took 40 yrs to figure it out. If you have the funds I would climb as high up the ladder you can. I think most would agree an older well maintained coach will get you the most bang for your buck.
__________________
IASM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 12:23 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
AKOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Alaska
Posts: 320
Certainly personal preference plays a big part in the decision process. If looking at a used unit, it does help if you are handy and enjoy doing your own work. If not, find a reliable shop you can trust. Welcome to iRV2, post pictures when you have made your purchase.
__________________
Tim & Ruth
Alpine Coach 1999 40FDS, 350 ISC
Project Restoration
AKOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 03:33 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Shaky's Avatar
 
Vintage RV Owners Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
We travel anywhere from 6 to 13 weeks a year and plan on becoming snow birds next winter. Our MH is gas powered and we tow a Jeep Wrangler TJ. We've had no issues with our rig being underpowered. It is noisier in the cab due to engine location, but is much more reasonable to work on. Would I like a 450HP DP? Sure, we have the money to support one, but the old girl is in great condition and is bought and paid for. I plan on adding insulation on the engine cover in the cab to help decrease the noise (which isn't intolerable) but otherwise will continue to travel in our Fleetwood. Had we gotten a diesel to begin with I'm sure I'd be singing the praises of a diesel rig. We didn't so I'm more than pleased with the 460 Ford. She has yet to let us down.
__________________
'97 Pace Arrow Vision 36 with Tag Axel, Ford 460 with Banks Power Pack. 2000 Jeep Wrangler Toad, one miniature schnauzer that rules the roost and a wife that enjoys traveling. Retired FTCS (SS) USN and loving it. FMCA#461483
Shaky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 07:24 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Coma's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Emerald Coast
Posts: 1,750
Fuel choice is really a red herring.

Decide what you what you want in a MH. If you want to tow 10 k pounds then there are no gas powered choices. If you want something small, 36', or less there are no rear diesel choices. Find a MH that does and lives as you wish and you will find an engine that does the job. Diesels have different maintenance requirements than gas, there are also added requirements for the pneumatics system, etc.

Scheduled maintenance requirements are a very small part of the total costs. Diesels can have very high unscheduled costs. The only reason to buy and own a depreciating asset like a MH is because you enjoy it.
__________________
Jim and Jennie, Cats=Bittles and Potter, 2000 Dynasty 350 ISC
2013 Silverado 4x4 Towed with R1200GS in bed.
PROV23:4 Do not wear yourself out to get rich; have the wisdom to show restraint.
Coma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 07:35 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 2,164
I believe that how you plan to use the coach is or should be a big factor in what you buy. If you are going to use it for short trips to the local park a couple of time a year or a two week vacation each year, a gas engined model will serve you better. If you are going to take 5000 mile trips back and forth across the country a few times a year or live in the coach full time, then a diesel powered coach makes more sense.

Our first coach was gas powered and we enjoyed motorhoming so much that we decided to go fulltime. Love the diesel but we've come off the road so things may change.
__________________
Roger & Mary
2017 Winnebago Navion 24V
2014 Tiffin Phaeton 36GH (Sold)
luvlabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 08:02 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ & Plover, WI
Posts: 1,623
Not to be blunt, but do a search. This subject has been discussed to death. Some are happy with gas and the rest are happy with diesel. It's all personal wants and needs.
__________________
2013 43 QGP Allegro Bus
Crasher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 08:44 AM   #13
Senior Member
 
becks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fulltime/ SE Minnesota
Posts: 2,541
I keep it simple.....If budget allows go diesel.
__________________
06 TS-42-DS04
1040 watts of solar
2014 Jeep Rubicon/2003 Honda CRV
becks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2016, 08:49 AM   #14
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by IASM View Post
...Since most diesels are pushers it make the cab more comfortable but hard for someone to sleep in the back. The opposite with a gas...
Interesting, you actually mean like DH sleeping while DW driving? I never thought someone would/could sleep back there safely while the coach is moving.

My DW and I were looking at a new gasser over the weekend and, in this particular model, the Onan Quiet generator was running under the Master bed. We didn't like the noise nor the vibration it generated. So either running the genset to run the A/C while driving, or while boondocking, wouldn't be something we'd like to hear/feel either while sleeping.
__________________

__________________
Julius is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
class a, diesel, gas



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A High End Gas Class A or A Low End Diesel Pusher Grandcanyon Class A Motorhome Discussions 110 04-23-2014 10:22 AM
First time buyer new gas Thor, or used Tiffin diesel class A? RStone76 Class A Motorhome Discussions 60 12-26-2013 01:41 AM
downsizing class A from 36 gas to 30 diesel srzak Class A Motorhome Discussions 6 12-04-2011 08:27 AM
Gas Class A's with Tows - where do you gas up? geekyexplore iRV2.com General Discussion 23 08-03-2011 08:31 AM
Winnebago Industries Has Best Selling Class C and A Gas & Diesel. DriVer RV Industry Press 11 05-18-2005 07:06 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.