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Old 11-12-2013, 03:46 PM   #15
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Depends on how long the neighbors dog barked yesterday.
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Or how late they kept you up partying and loud laughing !

Yup

normally we pull out in about 5 min.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:55 PM   #16
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Never witnessed a 30 minute warm-up.

Most well maintained chassis's will air up in 5 minutes.

One of the most positive aspects of a DP is how quickly you can set-up and how quickly you can leave.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:34 PM   #17
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My Beaver (Monaco) requires suspension aired up before bringing in the slides but the slides won't operate with the engine running.
My routine is:
  • Retract levelling jacks
  • Start engine and air up. While airing, I walk round and stow the jack pads and ensure jacks fully retracted.
  • By the time I get back to the drivers seat, air is mostly done. Wait for the air dryer to vent.
  • Shut off engine and retract slides.
  • Another walk around to check everything is secure.
  • Fire up the engine and move off.
Usually idling for less than 5 minutes.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:01 PM   #18
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Old school mentality is to let idle or fast idle a long time for warm up. Cat and Cummins both recommend idle until air pressure is up and then move at low load and rpm to get your engine to operating temp.
As far as cool down. You really need to make sure your exhaust temp is down before you shut off. Idling through a camp ground should do it. Pulling into a fuel island from highway speeds especially on a hot day needs at least 2 to 4 minutes. It will save your turbo. I'm talking pre emotions engines here as I can't comment on the newer ones.
I agree completely.
That long idling thing is a carryover from 5-6 decades ago. A diesel engine will never reach operating temperature at low idle, it will cause unburned fuel to bypass the rings and contaminate the engine oil. Cummins says not to idle their engines over 10 minutes. Can't speak for anyone else, but my ISC engine will be halfway to normal temperature reading in 10 minutes of driving.
For me, that means I can start the engine, retract jacks, retract slides, pull out of parking site, drive the short distance to the highway and by then the temperature gauge is halfway to normal reading. If in cold weather I've already warmed up the engine with the block heater, and the previous method still works.
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As a side note here. You should never use you Jacobs engine brake
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:28 PM   #20
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As a side note here. You should never use you Jacobs engine brake
Sorry. I goofed. You should never use your Jacobs engine brake until the oil temp is above 100 degrees f. Cold oil causes extreme pressure in the jake heads and could crack them. The jake works way better then but at a cost.
I'm not talking about an exhaust flap here.
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Old 11-13-2013, 06:13 AM   #21
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I think when you state "30 min".... it may be a slight exaggeration. In all my years of rv'ing, I've never seen anyone do this. However, I have seen them idling 10 - 15 min....which is still somewhat unnecessary.

30 minutes is just being rude and inconsiderate of their neighbors and is detrimental to the coach it self.

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Apparently we don't camp in the same places. On our first trip this past summer there were three occasions where either a DP or diesel pickup was idling nearby for more than 15 minutes. It is rude and inconsiderate and campground management should prohibit it.
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:09 AM   #22
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Lol Now we and the campground management need to get stop watches!
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I also have read on the Cummins site that idling for too long is really bad on the engine.
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On cold start up, the minimum I idle is until the air dryer vents, water temp gets to 100* and the front windsheild defrost. About 5 or 6 minutes.

This is less time than it took me with my diesel truck to hook up the 5th wheeler and make it ready to pull out.
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Some folks should just go back to staying in hotels.
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We idle during the last steps of breaking camp. We can work slides and such before we start. We always try to be considerate but when you have to go, you have to go. LOL

When we are ready to start we have slides in and jacks up. I open the engine bay and check the oil and coolant levels, start the engine and check tranny fluid for cold temp level. After that I wait for the air bags to fully inflate. At that point we shut it down and hook up the toad (if needed) unless we have to pull out to do the hook up. If we have to pull out we try to find a place away from others to do the hook up.

The noisiest part of the process is airing up the tires if needed. I use a portable compressor that is louder than the engine.
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I really, really, like the one about the date neighbors dog barking
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I really, really, like the one about the neighbors dog barking!
Siri added that word date in my last post wasn't me. Lol
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