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Old 01-11-2014, 03:36 PM   #29
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I think i know who Uncle Joe is
HUH What, Who, Where!!!

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I don't think you do, but you may know his cousin in Germany
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:05 PM   #30
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The United States constitution dictates that other states have to recognize the licensing requirements of a US citizens state of residence the license is issued from. I believe the pertinent reading is the section of the law that dictates a non resident coming driving in the United States must meet the requirements of that states regulations. If you are a German Citizen and you want to drive a motor home in TEXAS you will have to have a license with a motorhome endorsement. I do not see what is hard about this.
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And 6th. He will however be required to abide by all of each states laws regarding speeds, weight, length, double towing, etc.

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Old 01-11-2014, 10:54 PM   #32
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If you are a German Citizen and you want to drive a motor home in TEXAS you will have to have a license with a motorhome endorsement. I do not see what is hard about this.
What could be hard is that very few places (very few states as well) have such a thing as a motorhome endorsement. Texas does not. Texas has non-CDL class A and B licenses that are needed for larger RVs (as well as other vehicles).

I wouldn't be at all surprised if many countries don't have non-CDL licenses that allow for large vehicles like a large RV. I certainly wouldn't want to drive a 45' MH in many places in Europe. The largest RVs I've seen in Europe were 20' (or so) TTs and 24-28' Class Cs. As for a 5er, pickup trucks are almost unheard of in Europe. I spent a month driving from Paris to Rome a couple years ago, and I think I saw about a half-dozen pickup-type trucks the whole month.
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What could be hard is that very few places (very few states as well) have such a thing as a motorhome endorsement. Texas does not. Texas has non-CDL class A and B licenses that are needed for larger RVs (as well as other vehicles).

I wouldn't be at all surprised if many countries don't have non-CDL licenses that allow for large vehicles like a large RV. I certainly wouldn't want to drive a 45' MH in many places in Europe. The largest RVs I've seen in Europe were 20' (or so) TTs and 24-28' Class Cs. As for a 5er, pickup trucks are almost unheard of in Europe. I spent a month driving from Paris to Rome a couple years ago, and I think I saw about a half-dozen pickup-type trucks the whole month.
What I meant is how hard is this to understand. the US constitution says all states have to honor other states drivers license requirements. The URL that was posted says if you are not a US resident you have to meet the requirements of the state you are driving in. I am an Arkansas Resident. I can drive my class A in texas with my Arkansas drivers license no matter what license texas requires of its residents. If I was from Germany and I was driving in Arkansas I would be required to meet Arkansas requirements. If I was from Germany and was driving in Texas I would have to meet Texas requirements. I do not see anything hard to understand about this. Now the different requirements that each state has can be pretty hard to understand sometimes but the basic principal that I outlined above is pretty cut and dried.


Keep in mind what I said before the various laws are only what the police person thinks they are if you are pulled over. He might be wrong but he has a gun and can radio for help
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Just a thought, maybe have Uncle Joe talk to one of the RV rental places (in his home state) to see what they require. Many of them rent to people from other countries who take the RVs all over the place.

They must deal with this sort of thing all the time? Couldn't hurt to ask although I would not consider it legal advice.

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Just a thought, maybe have Uncle Joe talk to one of the RV rental places (in his home state) to see what they require. Many of them rent to people from other countries who take the RVs all over the place.

They must deal with this sort of thing all the time? Couldn't hurt to ask although I would not consider it legal advice.

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Good thought......I am going to say most rental units are under the weight limit for most all states regarding this matter........
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And the sales person, rental person. is going to tell them "what" to make money?

Henrik,
I'm saddened by all the Bureaucratic Bull Piles that foreigners have to go through. I'm sure it is reciprocal BBP should we go to Europe. It is what it is.

I would assume that many come here and drive no matter what there license states. The biggest problem is if you get stopped, or heaven forbid, have an accident.

I know that is not an answer and I'm going to follow this thread to see if there ever is a resolution to the situation.

Happy trails, of is it happy trials.
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Good thought......I am going to say most rental units are under the weight limit for most all states regarding this matter........
I actually searched around on the net on this exact question when I saw this thread and you are right. All the rental companies I found were only renting CLASS C or smaller, so they had no specific license requirements other than an English translation of your home country license (International Permit). Since Class C's can be driven on a regular license everywhere this made sense.

I would agree with the other poster who said that, as a foreigner, you need to be legal by state. Reciprocity only applies *within* the states (I.e. if you're licensed in one US state, your license is accepted in all other states).

International licenses are a whole other basket. You can drive on an international license anywhere in the US, but you need to take heed of the individual state licensing laws. If the state you're visiting requires a different class of license for a Class A, then the international license needs to be of equivalent class.

Would you ever be stopped, and would a cop even know how to interperet the equivalent international license? That's the question. Likely no, but you'd always be taking the chance.
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I know for a fact that Brambellias in Minnesota rents out Class A's very large class A's, We were surprised, I too thought that they only rented Class C's
I was shocked at what they rent them for also.
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I know for a fact that Brambellias in Minnesota rents out Class A's very large class A's, We were surprised, I too thought that they only rented Class C's I was shocked at what they rent them for also.
Interesting. Do you know if they specify any special license requirements for foreigners? MN doesn't require a special class of license for big rig RVs (as far as I remember) so I wonder if they just ignore that whole deal.
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Just for interest. This site has an excellent list of license requirements by state for RVs. Most states don't require anything special for heavier RVs, but there are a few notable exceptions (e.g. TX, WY, NC etc.). If your foreign friend wanted to be absolutely certain they stayed "legal" on the license issue, looks like it would be pretty easy to plan a US trip and avoid the few states that have special limitations:

http://changingears.com/rv-sec-state-rv-license.shtml

For example you could do a "western trip" across CA, AZ, UT, ID, CO, OR, WA in a 40-foot Class A RV on a regular license without breaking any state laws.
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I would also suggest you discuss this issue with your insurance provider. While it might be inconvenient to be stopped in Texas by the police and risk some sort of citation.....if your collision & liability insurance is also void in Texas without the necessary license...this could be considerably more than inconvenient if you get into an accident.
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At least for IL, the special endorsement based on exceeding 16K lbs does not apply to rentals. There is a special clause that exempts the driver for non-com rental. I always figured if I wanted a larger RV and didn't want to take the test, I would rent my RV to myself.
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