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Old 02-21-2016, 08:39 PM   #1
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Class A Gas (26,000lb) with a Hydraulic Motorcycle Lift?

Has anyone installed the Hydraulic mc lift on their Gas powered (26,000lb GVWR) Class A (Outlaw 38 RE) and used blue ox to tow toad as well?

Looking for the best of both worlds.

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I pitty the fool...put the bike outside on the back of an Outlaw

Only kidding The residence Outlaws are beautiful with the 9' bedroom ceiling, bath and a half and the Fiesta Deck with the wet bar out back

If it were me, I would get a tandem dolly...bike on the front and car, dollied on the back.
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The hydraulic lift on the back of a gas Class A is not a TMC only idea. If you want to move the thread from the owner's forum, give a shout.

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Thanks Steve weighing all of my options. If you can move the thread that Boulder be great.

Thanks Bonz
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I pitty the fool...put the bike outside on the back of an Outlaw

Only kidding The residence Outlaws are beautiful with the 9' bedroom ceiling, bath and a half and the Fiesta Deck with the wet bar out back

If it were me, I would get a tandem dolly...bike on the front and car, dollied on the back.
Sold by several companies like: Landgrebe Mfg. Inc.
We have no affiliation.

The hydraulic lift on the back of a gas Class A is not a TMC only idea. If you want to move the thread from the owner's forum, give a shout.

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[moderator edit] Your length and weight to center of rear wheels is a accident waiting to happen.

You would have issues with lack of weight on steering axle.

I had one on the rear of a 42 with tag it worked ok but bottomed out in driveways. I tow a gmc pickup with Goldwing trike in back and that works.
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[moderator edit] Your length and weight to center of rear wheels is a accident waiting to happen.

You would have issues with lack of weight on steering axle....
I was wondering the along the same lines. Besides, I would also think that much weight on the back bumper would nearly guarantee maxing out the rear axle.
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Has anyone installed the Hydraulic mc lift on their Gas powered (26,000lb GVWR) Class A (Outlaw 38 RE) and used blue ox to tow toad as well?

Looking for the best of both worlds.

Thanks Bonz. "Mr T".
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Well Sir, you're asking a lot of that Outlaw gasser. I installed a Hydralift on the back of our coach, an '04 Itasca Horizon, 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT. Now, yep, that's a diesel and, there's quite a bit of differences in your coach and ours. And, I WAS OVER THE AXLE WEIGHT LIMIT, even with our coach. I hauled our '08 Honda GL 1800 Goldwing on that lift and, towed our Jeep Rubicon. It worked outstanding for over 8,000 miles. Then, things changed and, I, like Don, (Dupdyke) migrated over to the Rampage and, am now hauling the Wing in the back of our GMC toad.

As for your situation, isn't the Outlaw a form of a toy hauler anyways? If so, then why not haul the bike in it and, tow whatever kind of toad you like? Just Wondering.
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Interesting replies. The 38RE is a "residence edition" Outlaw. There is a master suite including a half bath where other Outlaws have the 2,500lb capacity garage...that's a bed, toilet and some furnture...certainly NOT 2,500lb. So I submit there is tons of capacity to hang a bike on the back.

If the Tandem dolly idea is not favorable, Bonzo...why not give these folks a call:

Motorhome Lift | Hydralift Motorcycle Lifts
Their website shows Diesel pusher (of course) as well at 5er and gas Class A applications.

Or CruiserLift, says it may or may not work on a gas Class A:
http://www.cruiserlift.com/cruiserlift.html
And they also offer:
http://www.cruiserlift.com/id77.html

Best luck and hope you post all about it
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Interesting replies. The 38RE is a "residence edition" Outlaw. There is a master suite including a half bath where other Outlaws have the 2,500lb capacity garage...that's a bed, toilet and some furnture...certainly NOT 2,500lb. So I submit there is tons of capacity to hang a bike on the back.

If the Tandem dolly idea is not favorable, Bonzo...why not give these folks a call:

Motorhome Lift | Hydralift Motorcycle Lifts
Their website shows Diesel pusher (of course) as well at 5er and gas Class A applications.

Or CruiserLift, says it may or may not work on a gas Class A:
Cruiserlift RV Motorcycle Lift System
And they also offer:
SWIVELWHEEL-58DW TANDEM TOW

Best luck and hope you post all about it
I think hanging a pound off the back of the coach is not the same as putting a pound in the coach.
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I think hanging a pound off the back of the coach is not the same as putting a pound in the coach.
+1 Hanging off the back VS being inside close to axle is not the same thing
I doubt anyone will recommend that on the back of an outlaw and assume you will have trouble getting weight on steer axle
You can put a Goldwing in the back of a pick up does not mean you can hang it off the bumper
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Class A Gas (26,000lb) with a Hydraulic Motorcycle Lift?

The swivel wheel...

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A great start before spending any money, is to look at the Blue Ox website. Find their very helpful link to a form that you use to figure out the weights that a lift and bike will impose onto the rear axle of the RV. You will need to impute your wheel base, rear over hang, lift weight, and bike weight. You will get the outhanging load weight and more.

If your rear axle can take the increased load, then see if the manufacture put enough steel in the rear overhang to begin to carry the load.

Years ago, when I added a Blue Ox platform and a 650# BMW to my first Foretravel diesel pusher, everything worked out. The lift was rated to lift 1000#, and we flat towed a Saturn off the back of the lift, with a flat tow rating of 5000#. That coach had massive steel structure all the way to the 3"x4" steel cross bar for the hitch. I had 2 additional receivers added at a welding shop, after they confirmed they thought I had the steel to carry it all. They turn away, more trailers and coaches for the lack of rear structure than they will work on in their shop.
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I'm rather interested in your solution to both carry and tow. I've a couple of question I hope you can help with, however. 1) Does the engine heat from the motorhome cause any problems--it is near impossible to stand behind our rear radiator with the coach running on a hot day? 2) With the tow hitch's pivot point farther from the coaches rear axle is there a significant turning/tracking adjustment? Thanks for your thoughts/experience. Dan
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The swivel wheel...
The swivel wheel has been on my wish list for my bike. But then I couldn't tow a vehicle. Thanks for posting this version, I hadn't seen it before.
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Just to help visualize...The entire garage in an Outlaw is BEHIND the rear axle.

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Yes, that is a Smart Car in the garage...that rides totally behind the rear axle...Yeah, I know, Outlaws are AMAZING

However...The OP's Outlaw has only a big/open master suite and half bath in the general area of this floor plan.

And please recall...I recommend a tandem dolly. But I bet that mechanically it can work....I would take it to the scales first to be sure.

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