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Old 01-24-2011, 10:57 AM   #1
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Cold Weather Diesel Engine Starts

Can you imaging having this kind of problem starting your cold MH diesel. Listen to the whine of the turbo chargers, wow

YouTube - 37419 COLD START

This one is neat also
YouTube - D335 (40135) Start-Up (Not as you expect) - 19.01.08

On some previous post somebody mentioned that once a locomotive starts a motor they just let it run as long as possible. Now I see why.
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Mike - how are you doing?

I can't imagine how much those blocks must expand as they heat up. The distortion forces must be enormous.

Had to fire up my C13 this week, lucky for me it was just above freezing this week, we have been in deep freeze the past few weeks. When it gets down below -20C I need to run the aquahot for an hour before I can fire it. Yesterday it lit right up.
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I remember an old shovel that had a gas engine for a starter. They started the gas then used it to spin the diesel till it started.
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bldrbob - I remember working in the bush almost 30 years ago, we were cutting logging roads with a big dozer. I think it had a small diesel to start the big one, same idea.
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I remember an old shovel that had a gas engine for a starter. They started the gas then used it to spin the diesel till it started.
The small engines used to start the larger ones were known as "pony engines" in the oil field.

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Thats painfull !! Sounds like that took years of life off those engines.
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The small engines used to start the larger ones were known as "pony engines" in the oil field.

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sometimes you start a turbo diesel by blowing the exhaust side of the turbo with compressed air and using the pressure from the turbo to turn the engine over.

Here's an aviation diesel starting using that method:
zoche aero-diesels testbench video
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I have a detroit diesel that needs either to start in the mornings. Otherwise it can be used for mosquito control, (lotsa white diesel smoke). Give it a shot of either, then crank. When the engine starts to kick, turn on the diesel.
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The wine you hear in the first video is actually the starter... I use to have a CAT 3208 that smoked just as bad when started....
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Nope was talking about the turbo charge whine in the bottom video.
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Engine death in the works. All that raw fuel blowing past the rings, oil dilution OMG...

Both those engines are drowning in fuel...


One word: "propane"....
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Nope was talking about the turbo charge whine in the bottom video.
My bad ! I guess I should have listened to the second video......
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I tried using propane on my 2 stroke Detroit Diesel 6V53. It didn't seem to do anything. Maybe I didn't use enough. The engine has an ether injection system which has the same thread size as a small propane tank.
When you push a button on the dash, a solenoid valve opens and injects a metered amount of ether into the intake just before the supercharger.
The replacement either tanks are quite pricey,(like $100.00), so I tried substituting a propane and a map gas cylinder. No luck.
A hundred bucks will buy a lot of regular cans of starting fluid, so that is what I use, one quick shot into the air cleaner does the job.
I tried using gasoline as a substitute as well, and got poor results. Possible because it does not evaporate fast enough in the intake to do much good.
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