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Old 03-29-2014, 11:54 AM   #43
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I might Just go with rock. Sounds like it is starting to get pretty $$$. Now what is the best rocks to use for this?
"#57 with dust", packs down very tight, and the dust fills in voids so it is hard packed, long lasting.
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:22 PM   #44
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After reading this I know our driveway was not designed to last. This year the frost line exceeded 36" and I know they didn't put more than a few inches of gravel down. The joints aren't cut, they look molded in and are about 3/8" wide and about that deep. The stamped, decorative concrete on the sides is saw cut but has still cracked in several places. They put felt between the drive and garage but the drive is sinking and the felt is sticking out. The patio they pored out back has moved away from the foundation of the house and we have a 1/2" gap. The felt fell into the gap. I wish I had known more before we started. Sorry if I've gotten off topic but I am learning a lot about what should have been done.
It sounds like the guy that did that was not qualified to do the job or just refused to do it. Our frost line is 13', I cannot imagine pouring concrete to withstand that weather. if you a four inch slab and no turn down you need to make sure it will move together and not hang on anything, the frost raises the slab and the thaw allows it to settle. When we have a bad winter just as we have had this year we see damage not so much as the sever freeze but when the slab moves it will key on the house which should not move or the brick or the garage slab, when one side moves the other does not then it cracks, the wire then helps hold it together. The cracks should occur in the saw joints, that is the reason it is sawed and the depth of the cut is really critical, it just simply makes it break where you need it to break, the caulk then keeps water out of under the slab. I have been in the construction for over 40 years and I still do not know how to keep concrete from cracking, I just hope I can control it. One other thing, do not use wood as expansion joints, looks good but sooner or later it rots leaving a 3/4" crack for water.
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My driveway is 4 inch concrete with only fiberglass (kitty hair) mixed into the 6 bag mix. It was poured over my existing gravel driveway and I park my 36 class A. No rebar and no mesh, no problem.
Sounds like there is overkill in your plan.
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You can't really fight mother nature, the earth moves constantly, and all concrete cracks eventually. The goal it to prolong the inevitable, or limit the damage as long as possible, hence the grooves in concrete that crack first.

A concrete guy told me there is 2 kinds of concrete concrete that is cracked, and concrete that is going to crack.
He also said the same about basements, and leaks, The basement that leaks, and the basement that will leak
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:28 PM   #47
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You can't really fight mother nature, the earth moves constantly, and all concrete cracks eventually. The goal it to prolong the inevitable, or limit the damage as long as possible, hence the grooves in concrete that crack first.
Pouring all of your cement on 3/4" or 1" celotex insulation will give Mother Nature a run for her money, she has not beat me in over 15 years with my cement around my home. This patio is 16' x 24' with no cuts, no expansion joints, one big pad poured on celotex (fiber-crete) There is one hair-line crack (have to look hard to see it) 2/3rd's of the way across it. It has never moved.
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Road Base is a mixture of different aggregates that differs everywhere. It is laid down on compacted dirt to a certain depth and compacted also, then asphalt is laid down over it.
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I was in the concrete busness for quite a spelland the main thing on cocrete is the base. If you have a solid base, 2in will work I poured a 100 ft drive about seven years ago, had extra sack per yard pluss fiber. Have a couple of small cracks and I park a 40 ft D/P Holliday Rambler on it.No problem!!Good luck
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My pad is 4" of fiber reinforced concrete poured over a wire mesh lying on 6" of gravel.
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I was in the concrete busness for quite a spelland the main thing on cocrete is the base. If you have a solid base, 2in will work I poured a 100 ft drive about seven years ago, had extra sack per yard pluss fiber. Have a couple of small cracks and I park a 40 ft D/P Holliday Rambler on it.No problem!!Good luck


2" -- TWO INCHES-- COME ON, this is getting ridiculous. I was in the industrial scale business for years and installed 4 motor truck scales in the meadowlands of NJ where we weighed over 2500 trucks daily going into the dump near Giant stadium. I know about installing concrete and to hold trucks that came in with overloads weighing in at 128,000 pounds of rubble. I was qualified to design up to 1 million pounds and headed up jobs at Alcoa, Pittsburgh steel and a dozen other major industrial plants for Toledo scale and for myself with my own company. Now I'm not saying you have to design to 12" thick with 2" rerod. my monolithic pours of 15 truck loads never cracked.

how come no one here realizes that the township will require a permit to install your pad, sidewalk, drive etc etc. they are the people who will spec the minimum thickness, mix and location. you can put in all the excesses you desire but - the OP - two inches for 30k pounds NAaa !
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I would go 6". My first rig was a 36' Discovery. It cracked my 4" driveway in several areas. Subsequently I have purchased larger rigs which have further damaged the concrete driveway. My suggestion is to over-engineer and go 6" with reinforcement. I would also figure a way to go thicker along the edges. That't where most of my damage occurred. Maybe a footing, not sure.. I'm facing a $25k repair bill( long driveway). I'm thinking about asphalt to highway specs.
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Do not use 3/8 gravel! it will just shift under the weight. Use a good road bsse instead: 11/2" minus crushed rock followed by a 3/4" minus top layer well compacted
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