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Old 07-22-2014, 07:10 PM   #15
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Well I just learned something new about the two pumps. Thanks for the info!

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Old 07-22-2014, 07:24 PM   #16
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We've been using a PenFed card for sometime now. Getting 5% back on every purchase of diesel or gas at the pump at any station. Automatically deducted off the monthly bill.

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Old 07-22-2014, 07:53 PM   #17
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Ditto on the Pilot/Flying J RV Plus card. I stop there all the time and have never gone inside for anything. Swipe the card and pump the fuel. Done.

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Old 07-22-2014, 08:23 PM   #18
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We did have an INTERESTING stop at a Pilot in IN back a few years. We were coming back from my 50th class reunion in 2012 and stopped in IN to gas up. We finished filling and could not make the turn in the gas area so I pulled into the diesel truck area. We entered through the appropriate arrowed lane and carefully swung around the front of a rig (about 15-20 feet in front) and a VOLVO dump truck barreling through the lot smashed into the side of the TT and totaled it. The TT was on it's maiden voyage and had less than 1,000 miles on it.

Nobody in the truck nor my F-150 were hurt. We were able to load all the TT stuff into the Ford. Within 30 days we had a new TT ordered and all the $$$ issues were settled. The dump truck driver was completely at fault.

Needless to say we always have a few comments as we pass the Pilot stations around the country.

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Old 07-22-2014, 08:47 PM   #19
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It's nice having dual fuel access and I haven't run into this as a result.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:17 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by Moonrover View Post
Once in a while you will pull in behind a trucker that has just pulled forward, so you figure he will be out of there before you are ready to pull forward. NOT. He will be the guy that saunters into the building, orders his take out meal, does a bit of impulse shopping then eventually gets in line to pay for his fuel, food, and stuff. Trust me, you will see that guy ahead of you someday.
Wow... Been there!! Memorial Day Weekend we were on the NJ Turnpike and pulled off for diesel. We got in the truck line, which was pretty busy. When the guy in front of me was done fueling up, he just left the truck at the pump and walked to the building. Since he didn't pay first, the attendant would let the female that was with him move the truck out of the way. So we had to wait.... When he came back 20 minutes later, his credit card was denied for payment, so I assume he went back to the building to make arrangements to pay or use an ATM. 20 more minutes and the lane next to me finally cleared up enough so I could move over and finally fuel up. 10 minutes later when I was done and headed out, he still wasn't back to his truck. By the time I left the rest area, I was so upset, I was ready to explode!! I still get upset just thinking about it. It was the worst gas stop experience I've ever had and was most certainly a learning experience.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:21 PM   #21
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Read ALL of the fine print on the Pilot/Flying J card very closely before you use it. I believe it is NOt a credit/debit card so federal protections against card fraud does not apply. In addition we've found that limits on the card make it's use by us when we travel just about useless.

Regardless, the attitude you saw by the counter person is mot unusual at Pilot Flying J. We've experienced similar attitudes throughout the US and it appears to be slowly increasing ever since Pilot took over FJ. If you're not a trucker and part of an organization that buys thousands of gallons a month, you're dirt and are treated as such.

I agree that MUCH lower fuel prices are available at easily accessible stations throughout the US. A check of Gas Buddy and a look at Google earth will show where they are and how to get in and out of the stations with ease.

These truck stops don't want my business and I'm happy to take it elsewhere. Too bad really. The old Flying J chain had occasional problems but was still great to use. No more now.
The information you are putting out is incorrect. The card is a credit card and it does have the same fraud protection as any other credit card. I also have the pilot/flying J card and I pull up to the pump swipe my card and fill the tank up. I do not have to swipe it more than once.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:30 PM   #22
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Commercial Road Tax

When towing our old TT with a Diesel Dodge, I found that in some locales there is a commercial tax added at the truck lanes that is not added to the car/RV lanes.

I had picked the truck lanes because there was no wait...went in to the counter to pre-authorize (nothing was said), then went outside and filled-up. When I went back inside, the cashier was busy selling beefjerkey or something to another customer, so the shift manager helped me finalize the charge...

She looked at me and my credit card, then looked outside at the truck and TT... Then turned back to me and said "Are you a delivery driver?" I said, "Huh?! Ahhh, no." Then she replied, "It's too late now, but those pumps have an extra road tax for commercial vehicles." Doh!!! I didn't even ask what was the tax and left.

So, just something to beware.
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Old 07-22-2014, 09:33 PM   #23
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I too use the penfed card and get my 5% return right off the bill.
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:31 AM   #24
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I too use the penfed card and get my 5% return right off the bill.
I thought PenFed discontinued the 5%. They sent a notice a year or two ago saying it was ending, so I closed my account.
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Old 07-23-2014, 08:05 AM   #25
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Very helpful info on the diesel fill-up. Have a new DP and only filled up once from the drivers side so no problem.

However, I didn't think to look around carefully to plan filling the DEF tank. Mine is on the passenger side at the back of the coach. (drivers side diesel fill is in the middle)

Are there DEF pumps on both sides? Is there a specific sequence which the pumps require or are there separate pumps/swipes for DEF?


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Old 07-23-2014, 08:21 AM   #26
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I thought PenFed discontinued the 5%. They sent a notice a year or two ago saying it was ending, so I closed my account.
I use PenFed for gas and get 3% back since I don't have the other products to qualify for 5%.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:51 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by BernerDad View Post
Are there DEF pumps on both sides? Is there a specific sequence which the pumps require or are there separate pumps/swipes for DEF?


Normally, the DEF pump is next to the primary pump, which is on the left side. Some newer motorhomes now have the DEF tank on the left (DS) side.
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:56 AM   #28
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When I was still trucking I ran across a few rv newbies in the fuel lanes.
I don't remember where it was but I had gone in and had the lady turn my pump on. as Im walking out this guy parked next to me was scratching his head how come is pump wont pump. Before I could tell him he has to go inside first he grabs my hose flips the handle and it turns on. (because I went and had it turned on) He gets a couple gallons before I could stop him. I had to shut the pump off because he would not listen to me. He was madder then hell I shut the pump off. I was getting mad cause he was cussing me out. I yelled YOU ARE STEALING MY FUEL! There was a heated exchange before He finally stormed off and went inside. HE gave me a bunch of dirty looks when he came back. He was in his late 60s probably and I was in my early 20s. I guess he couldn't take a butt chewing from some punk kid. LOL I will never forget it.

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