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Old 04-06-2016, 10:36 AM   #15
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Yes, the nice thing about working on those engines were they were simple. Many parts were interchangeable from the 2-3-4-6-8-12-16 cylinder engines in the same size family. Not sure on the newer ones, but back in the day a 53 piston was a 53 piston regardless of the number of cylinders. A really good Jimmy wrench could figure out how to keep them from leaking oil. These things liked to leak. In the 80's or so they built a "silver" engine that was better sealed somehow, but I never worked on one of those.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:49 AM   #16
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Back in early 70's , I traveled extensively throughout Mexico while in early stages of building my produce importing co. One of my most favorite places for deep sea fishing was the sleepy ( back then ), little Pacific coast town of Manzanillo. I used to charter from a Captain that had four sons and three boats called the Lori Fleet. Along about 1975,he wanted to build another boat so each son would have one. He was going to build about 34 ft. and wanted to install a new Detroit 6V53. I located one for him in Corpus Christi, and arranged delivery for him to Manzanillo. The boat was finished and put to work. Bottom drops off sharply in that area so majority of trolling was done within 5 to 15 miles of port. Caught several sails over the years at mouth of jetties. My reward for helping him? He told me anytime I booked a trip ,just pay for fuel and tip the deckhand. This arrangement went on for a little over 25 yrs. same boat, same Detroit. Usually fished 4-5 times a year . I know it was rebuilt at least once. Last I heard from the sons was about 2004 and it was still going. I don't know but there was something soothing about the bubbling exhaust of that 6V53 . The other boats all had Perkins , which will probably start another bunch of posts?
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In the sixties and seventies my family owned and operated a small trucking company. We had a mix of Gas, Cummings, and Detroit rigs that ran every day. At that time a 220hp Cummings was the equivalent of a 6/71 Detroit. The difference was the Detroit leaked a lot of oil, galloped while idling, and when driven properly was a real screamer. The Cummings were easier to operate and were a lot more forgiving because you did not have to keep the rpms up as much.

When Cummings came out with the 250 and the v8 we got rid of the Detroits.
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The inlines were built so you could turn the block around to move the intake to the side you needed or turn the head around to move the exhaust.

They would stall and run backwards if you dogged them down. Not very long because it would run out of fuel.

I sat there and watched smoke come out of the air cleaner, while the truck went the wrong way.
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There was a large building on I10 in Biloxi, MS that had a "Detroit Allison" sign on it in the early 80s. Was Allision owned by Detroit Diesel at one time?
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The other boats all had Perkins , which will probably start another bunch of posts?
LOL Perkins is a British company, but Mexico had plants that built the 354 CI inline 6's by the bazillions. They used them on everything. I bought a used 1964 British version on the 354 and put it in a 1974 Dodge 250 Club Cab truck with a military surplus overdrive 5 speed transmission. I ran that truck for a long time. I lived on the border and would drive across to Mexicali and fill up my 60 gallon tank with $0.14 a gallon Mexican diesel. I could run between 1000-1200 miles on that! Most parts were interchangeable from the Brit version to the Mex version of the engine.


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. Was Allision owned by Detroit Diesel at one time?
Yes. Not sure who owned who but they were related. It was called Detroit Allison.
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LOL Perkins is a British company, but Mexico had plants that built the 354 CI inline 6's by the bazillions. They used them on everything. I bought a used 1964 British version on the 354 and put it in a 1974 Dodge 250 Club Cab truck with a military surplus overdrive 5 speed transmission. I ran that truck for a long time. I lived on the border and would drive across to Mexicali and fill up my 60 gallon tank with $0.14 a gallon Mexican diesel. I could run between 1000-1200 miles on that! Most parts were interchangeable from the Brit version to the Mex version of the engine.




Yes. Not sure who owned who but they were related. It was called Detroit Allison.
Millions of the perkins 354s went to Taiwan and were installed in the millions of pleasure boats they built for import to the US, during the 70s and 80s.

The parts are like gold today.

A buddy fried a 1985, 354 last year and got $1000. for it, unseen.
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I too have a DD 500 in a 14 American Eagle...12.8L, 500 HP and 1,650 ft/lbs of torque. DD is a "Daimler Company."
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LOL Perkins is a British company, but Mexico had plants that built the 354 CI inline 6's by the bazillions. They used them on everything. I bought a used 1964 British version on the 354 and put it in a 1974 Dodge 250 Club Cab truck with a military surplus overdrive 5 speed transmission. I ran that truck for a long time. I lived on the border and would drive across to Mexicali and fill up my 60 gallon tank with $0.14 a gallon Mexican diesel. I could run between 1000-1200 miles on that! Most parts were interchangeable from the Brit version to the Mex version of the engine.




Yes. Not sure who owned who but they were related. It was called Detroit Allison.
Interesting thread. I installed a 6-354 Perkins in a '69 F-250 Ford 4X4 back in '80 or '81 in front of an international 5 speed OD trans and a 2 speed Watson between it and the transfer case. That went into a 4:10 diff and ran at about the same rpm-mph as the Dodge Cummins W250 that replaced it. We hauled a 11.5' camper all over the US with it for about 20 years.

If I hadn't found the Perkins I would have used a Detroit 4-53 or 6V-53, but they are heavy engines.

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LOL Perkins is a British company, but Mexico had plants that built the 354 CI inline 6's by the bazillions. They used them on everything. I bought a used 1964 British version on the 354 and put it in a 1974 Dodge 250 Club Cab truck with a military surplus overdrive 5 speed transmission. I ran that truck for a long time. I lived on the border and would drive across to Mexicali and fill up my 60 gallon tank with $0.14 a gallon Mexican diesel. I could run between 1000-1200 miles on that! Most parts were interchangeable from the Brit version to the Mex version of the engine.




Yes. Not sure who owned who but they were related. It was called Detroit Allison.
WOW!! Talk about old memories! I used to load a lot of open top trucks with non perishable produce ." rabons" & "tortons" 2 axle or 3 axle. Drivers would say" load it until I can barely move, its a Perkins." About that time was when I learned that in Mexico, "manana" doesn't necessarily mean tomorrow, just not today. I now turn this hijacking back to the Detroits.
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There was a large building on I10 in Biloxi, MS that had a "Detroit Allison" sign on it in the early 80s. Was Allision owned by Detroit Diesel at one time?
I think BOTH of those brands belonged to GM long ago. It would not be unusual to see a shop "authorized" to work on both brands, even if they were no longer connected by mother GM.
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The Taiwan boats were Traders. Mostly trawlers and everyone I've been on has had a Perkins in it. Good marine engines.
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I had a 250 HP Perkins V8 in one of my farm tractors. That thing could really pull. Gave me 15 years of trouble free use before I quit farming.

Really like my Detroit series 60 we have in our Monaco.
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