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Old 10-11-2012, 05:39 PM   #1
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Diesel price??????

Anybody know why the price jumped in the last 2 days,up $.52 a gallon here,near MPLS
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:55 PM   #2
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My guess is the Oil companies are hurtin.
BTY, why is it that Diesel is more than Gasoline is the US? Diesel is cheaper to make so I assume there are taxes involved.
Here in Canada (Alberta at least) Diesel is less than Gasoline. My observation.

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:02 PM   #3
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Freaking gas jumped to 1.49/litre today here in the Lower Mainland. Freaking Translink.

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:02 PM   #4
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Must have brought it in from California. Right now diesel is cheaper than regular unleaded here, but not by much.
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Unleaded gas @ 3.939 and diesel @ 4.199 at the cheapest place around.
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BTY, why is it that Diesel is more than Gasoline is the US? Diesel is cheaper to make so I assume there are taxes involved.
Here in Canada (Alberta at least) Diesel is less than Gasoline. My observation.

Because the oil companies found a Cash Cow with diesel fuel.
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Regular Unleaded, +- $1.19 per liter (X4 for you US folks) = $4.80 +- / Gal
Diesel, +- $1.13 per liter or $4.50 +- / Gal
OK, now don't go getting techincal on me these are ball park not counting exchange etc. etc. But close.
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Because the oil companies found a Cash Cow with diesel fuel.
I thought it had something to do with your NEW Pres., Mr. O
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According to the news release that came out this afternoon from the U.S. Energy Information Administration, diesel prices increased the most from last week in the Midwest ...that's probably why it hit you the hardest in your location, rehtaf.

However, they didn't explain the reason for the increase. Look at it this way, you still have much lower diesel prices than we do out here on the west coast.

"The national average diesel fuel price increased a penny and a half to $4.09 per gallon, 37 cents per gallon higher than last year at this time. The largest increase came in the Midwest, where the price increased three cents to $4.04 per gallon. The East Coast price increased two cents to $4.10 per gallon, while the price on the Gulf Coast did not change from last week and remains at $4.00 per gallon. West of the Rockies, the Rocky Mountain price is a penny less than last week at $4.19 per gallon, and the West Coast price is up two cents to $4.32 per gallon."




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maybe this is why...

"Because it is a heavier hydrocarbon, diesel oil takes less refining; in the past this made it less expensive than gasoline. But as air pollution controls have become more stringent, diesel oil must be refined to have a lower percentage of sulfur, making its refinement process more expensive. Although diesel has a higher energy output per gallon than gasoline, it takes approximately 25 percent more crude oil to make a gallon of diesel oil than it does to make a gallon of gasoline."

Read more: The Difference in Cost Between Refining Gasoline & Diesel Fuel | eHow.com The Difference in Cost Between Refining Gasoline & Diesel Fuel | eHow.com
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maybe this is why...

"Because it is a heavier hydrocarbon, diesel oil takes less refining; in the past this made it less expensive than gasoline. But as air pollution controls have become more stringent, diesel oil must be refined to have a lower percentage of sulfur, making its refinement process more expensive. Although diesel has a higher energy output per gallon than gasoline, it takes approximately 25 percent more crude oil to make a gallon of diesel oil than it does to make a gallon of gasoline."

Read more: The Difference in Cost Between Refining Gasoline & Diesel Fuel | eHow.com The Difference in Cost Between Refining Gasoline & Diesel Fuel | eHow.com
Guess we have better refining methods here in Canada EH!
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Guess we have better refining methods here in Canada EH!
We just left Kimberly, BC on Sunday and that "better refined" Canadian diesel was $1.30 p/ltr. Once we crossed over the border we had to fill-up with "inefficiently refined" US diesel at &1.10 p/ltr.

Everything from diesel to dog food is 20-30% cheaper in the US and, as a result, we save about $1000p/mo. while we are south of 49. Canadians are being played for chumps! While in Alberta we buy Arcana dog food....made in Alberta...and it is 20% cheaper once it is exported and transported 1000 miles south to Moab, Utah.
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If things keep up, that will all change.
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I don't think your numbers are quite accurate. As I remember my chemistry, a barrel of crude can be distilled a number of ways, depending on what you want out of it. If you want more gasoline, you set up the refinery stills and associated equipment. This type of setup then limits the amount of other products such as jet fuel, home heating oil, kerosene, and light lubricating oils. Conversely, if you are set up for refining a maximum amount of diesel from your barrel of crude, you limit the amount of gasoline, naphtha, and other higher fractions you get. Also since diesel, home heating oil and lighter lubricating oils are a wider "cut" of the petroleum spectrum when necessary you can get more of them than the higher cuts without having to go to the more expensive "cracking" of the heavier cuts. The whole process depends on what the oil companies can sell and what the overall demand is for all portions of the barrel. Mix that with different and constantly changing profit margins on each portion of the barrel cut and you will see this isn't an easy thing to answer. Mix all that with EPA mandates for multiple blends of gasoline and sulfur content in diesels, and the differing requirements as well as taxes laid on by the states, and you find fuels selling in adjacent stations are not even close to being the same in price or makeup.
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