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Old 09-18-2014, 05:01 PM   #1
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Diesel Pusher question

what is the best A class dp for 325,000 or less or slightly more. that can do everything and has a tag for a discriminating user, that likes motorcycles, tailgates, the great northwest. I'm not going to live in it but would be nice to know i could if my wife left me because i bought an rv. new or slightly used.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:03 PM   #2
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should i be afraid of a fleetwood ?
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:04 PM   #3
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My vote would be to buy used from a high end builder. Foretravel, Wanderlodge, Monoco, Country Coach just to name a few.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:31 PM   #4
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:21 PM   #5
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Don't rule out the like of older Newell either. No slouch and they weathered the downturn in the economy. Take a look at some of their older units-they are still on a standard above the mre common builders.
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If buying new, no trade, figure roughly a 25% discount off the advertised MSRP. That would put you in the $425 - $430k MSRP territory.

We have a Fleetwood (American Coach) and yes, I would buy another. While we had far too many warranty issues after the sale, a much too common experience throughout the industry, their after the sale service support has been outstanding.
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Buying slightly used will give you a coach that hopefully has had all yhose nuisance warranty issues resolved already. Newell, Foretravel, Prevost you will need to go older to be in your price range.

Country Coach in the 2007 or possibly 2008 year would be in your category. The higher end Newmars (Essex, King Air) in the same range. American Coach Heritage, or higher end Tiffins. There are many coaches that would fall within your boundaries.

If you're not going FT, why would you purchase a coach this expensive just to fool around with. The Fleetwoods (American Coach is owned by the same company but the AC coaches are more high end the Fleetwood named coaches), Winnebagos, lower end Tiffins and Newmars would all work well for a PT experience.
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Look at Newmar, Essex or Mountain Aire. Definitely well built coaches, great customer service. If you buy used 2 to 3 years old you don't take such a hit on depreciation and all the manufacturing bugs been resolved. When you buy a Newmar even used you are part of the family. I hear the comfort drive system is a great asset.
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Buying slightly used will give you a coach that hopefully has had all yhose nuisance warranty issues resolved already. Newell, Foretravel, Prevost you will need to go older to be in your price range.

Country Coach in the 2007 or possibly 2008 year would be in your category. The higher end Newmars (Essex, King Air) in the same range. American Coach Heritage, or higher end Tiffins. There are many coaches that would fall within your boundaries.

If you're not going FT, why would you purchase a coach this expensive just to fool around with. The Fleetwoods (American Coach is owned by the same company but the AC coaches are more high end the Fleetwood named coaches), Winnebagos, lower end Tiffins and Newmars would all work well for a PT experience.
NOt sure he would have to go with a lower end tiffin. For that kind of money he could be sitting in a year or two old Allegro Bus. I watched them being built and I have a 2005 bus. I think they are a very good product
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Ah the old I want the "best" question. The reality is "best" is highly subjective. What is the best flavor of ice cream? What is the best color? Simply put the best for me will probably not be the best for you. Also motorhomes, just like boats, cars and planes are 'mission' specific. I've owned multiple boats, planes and RVs (on my sixth RV) and each one was bought for a specific purpose in mind, so again, there is no 'best' RV I've owned but there have been great RVs for the purpose I've had them for.

If I could suggest one thing. Don't focus on engines or axles, focus instead on these three things, floor plan, floor plan and floor plan. You will (probably) find that this will be much more important than anything else.
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Great question! I'm hitting the road late next year and at about $300K. I've narrowed my search to a used Prevost or Newell. Look at 10-year coaches and look at the depreciation and which coaches depreciate the least and are still on the road after 10-years. Prevost holds up the best, followed by Newell. But, for this price range, you're probably in the 2004-2005 Newell or 2002-2003 Prevost, depending on who was the converter. They are all "steel structure" and aluminum siding. They are built to last in the long run.
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NOt sure he would have to go with a lower end tiffin. For that kind of money he could be sitting in a year or two old Allegro Bus. I watched them being built and I have a 2005 bus. I think they are a very good product
I might have not stated clearly what I was thinking. Yes, for that money an Allegro Bus or even Zephyr could be gotten. What I meant with that statement is that spending that amount of money for PT use does not make sense to me. For PT use I would think even a lower end coach would be acceptable such as a lower end Tiffin DP. The amount of funds needed for this type coach would be considerably less than that quoted by the OP.

And yes, if we had not found the used CC we have, the Allegro Bus was at or near the top of our list. Tiffin, Newmar, Entegra, American Coach and many others make quality coaches, but for PT I would be looking at something less than the top of the line for these brands.
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We stayed at a RV park in Houston for 5 months and had a chance to see a lot of coaches. The Newell is truly incredible. The Entegra is very nice too along the Newmar King Aire. If the DW would go full time, then it would probably be one of these. However, I do not see that happening any time soon.
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If I could suggest one thing. Don't focus on engines or axles, focus instead on these three things, floor plan, floor plan and floor plan. You will (probably) find that this will be much more important than anything else.
But what happens when that floorplan falls through the floor because of poor construction?

You look at well built motorhomes first, then choose your floorplan - in my opinion, anyway. You can easily find excellent floorplans in cleaply made RVs. What good does that do you?
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